In regards to eating meat

[3DMonkey]

Austin, I absolutely do not buy into the theory that if I buy a product in a store then I am contributing to an all encompassing practicalities of its origination. I don't even want to discuss the topic, because I KNOW it will be a heated one. It's not right to do in this thread, at the least.

If you don't wish to discuss it, it is fine, but it escapes me that you cannot see how supporting a system perpetuates its continuation.

I'll try to answer you and Diana with this post. (I'm gonna pull a "unity100" and say that we shouldn't go further down the road with it).

To me...

The only relevance in life is direct personal relationships. I think Ra explicitly agrees.

If this is true (and it is to me), then the practices of a Free Will 3D entity at a slaughter house is entirely between that person and who/whatever he/she has a direct personal relationship with. If it were me at the slaughter house, then you would see "me" act as I would choose to act. The worker has his choice as well. My purchase does not affect his/her decision at his/her personal relationship level. Put me in a direct personal relationship with that worker, and that worker and I will create a bond, good bad or indifferent. That is where spiritual evolution is born.

@Diana, if I go down the road of "every action I take affects the entire chain of events leading up to it" then I am personally responsible for every single act ever known to this planet. I'm not, and neither are you.

You see, the way I see it, the "perpetuators" are the ones that want to label, condemn, shift the power. Everyone thinks their own way is the right way, and people who want to fight.... well they are perpetuating fighting on the planet. The end to all of it is to accept. It is the only true way. (not that I do it, or that I'm optimistic it will ever happen.) If Gaia is so important, let Gaia handle it.

I actually don't think my way is the "right" way, nor do I think anybody's way is the "right" way, including Ra. We all have "working theories," and we are all evolving, including Ra. Your theories are as valid as mine, mine as valid as yours, and ours are as valid as Ra's. If this opinion doesn't fit with this site, I will humbly bow out.

If you purchase a product (meat, Chinese plastic toys), you are part of the market that demands that commodity, that sustains its production. No demand; no supply. So some responsibility must go to the consumer.

I take your point about Gaia, and Gaia dealing with Gaia's issues. Yet, we are a part of the creation of some of those issues, so are we not culpable?

I can't deny that I'm part of the market. What I'm saying is that my purchase and consumption are not polarizing relationships. I am also saying that to take it upon myself to eliminate a workers Free Will right to make a living by boycotting in my own mental battle to destroy his vocation; that is a very polarizing expedition. One that I find to be destructive and not productive.


(As for Austin, one who takes up works of Self to actually compete in the field by a different solution, THAT is commendable) ( I hope my perception of your endeavors is correct )

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no Monkey. i don't have to prove anything.

okay. I think you would kill it.

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I find the most significant part of the quote about trees to be "through the love it receives and gives in relationship to a third-density entity which is in relationship to it"

It is our perception, our "THOUGHT", that Ra is relaying here.

An extended amount of time with interaction. "Man I love this table!"

Possibly interacted with for generations. Like enspiriting a rock. Not sure how it applies in the same way though.


hmmm..........
"Man this burger tastes awesome!"
Five minutes maybe?
An animal like savage in the butcher shop, then the guy that pulls it out of the freezer and spits on it while frying it. Then your 5 minutes of love.

Unless you hand form your burgers at home, then you can skip the spitting teenagers.

Sorry friend, I was laughing while typing this, don't take it seriously.

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This is an awesome discussion.

The only ones awesome for me are the ones that make my eyes water.
From laughter.

We know its true because we've probably both been there