11-14-2011, 03:55 PM
(11-14-2011, 03:35 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Ra said trees, and even locations.
They said "the vegetable, most especially the tree." This could include carrots.
(11-14-2011, 03:35 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: You mentioned everyone except the animal!
The individual animal may or may not feel ready to die. However, from the point of view of the species it is absolutely a good thing. How many cows or chickens do you think there would be now if they weren't in a symbiotic relationship with humans? White-tailed deer in the eastern US are not as healthy as they will be when the mountain lion returns.
(11-14-2011, 03:35 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I agree with that. But what does that have to do with killing animals?
You keep saying, "let's start by eliminating eating meat."
(11-14-2011, 03:35 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: The Native Americans had to kill animals to survive.
Actually, they didn't. They produced sufficient corn, beans, squash, etc, that they could have foregone meat. They chose not to.
(11-14-2011, 03:35 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: The choice between imposing my will over an obviously individuated animal, who makes his choice clear that he doesn't want to be killed, by runnig away from me, vs. harvesting a primitive lifeform out of a pristine eco-system capable of feeding the planet? You see no difference between those?
I see a difference in that I see harvesting an animal that has been humanely raised near to you or lived in the wild nearby is preferable to buying a product that comes in a plastic container and is shipped from thousands of miles away.