11-15-2011, 11:31 PM
(11-15-2011, 11:19 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: It's REALLY not about changing the other, Monkey. It's not about trying to change the mind of the one's raising animals inhumanely.
It's about ensuring the animal is not treated under horrendous conditions. You actively participate in the system. As a consumer, you are the final participant. You can choose to buy from humane producers or inhumane producers. The choice is there. You choose inhumane. You perpetuate the cruel treatment of animals by supporting those companies.
If no one bought the inhumane meat, would there still be inhumane producers? Who would they sell to? How would they make money to continue their operation?
This is about whether or not eating animals is non conducive to polarization.
To your point, you want me to make them poor? You want to take away their right?
And then, you want to humanely raise the animals so they can be closer to 3D before killing them?
Wouldn't it be better to suppress them down closer to the plant level, the sarcastically speaking, lower race of 2D beings?
Honestly, if it isn't about changing the mind of the "inhumane" employee then is it about eliminated the employee? Again, that is a move to control, not a move to accept. Just like in the other, simpler, hypotheticals.
By all means, you have your own authority to change things that way. But it isn't positive polarization. It just isn't. And that's what I'm talking about. Individual mind/body/spirit implications of this topic.
I love the idea of cutting your own path. And I think it can happen without ever turned your head to the side to see what the other guy is doing.
(11-15-2011, 11:26 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote:(11-15-2011, 11:20 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: If I shove the torturer aside, that is not acceptance. It just isn't. And I'm not saying what the proper course of action is. I am saying it is not acceptance.
If you shove the torturer aside because you don't accept the fact they're a torturer, you're right. If you shove the torturer aside because you wish to stop the suffering of the victim, it has nothing to do with the torturer, acceptance or not.
Life doesn't work that way. We can't pretend the torturer doesn't exist.
Especially if we directly alter his path.
My "eds" are supposed to be "ings"
To make a change, you play your game. Let the game come to you. You take the lead by doing it your way, and at the end of the day you can hold your head high. You don't chop block. You don't hit the guy below the belt. You don't take em out at the knees. You just be you and let him be him and let the best man win.
.... Wait a minute. Has this whole thing been about creating a consumer base? Creating a consumer that doesn't exist?