In regards to eating meat

[Monica]

IMO, the best way to proceed is to raise animals your way, and be happy that it is enough. Cuz if you ain't happy, you ain't helping the world's happiness meter.

I wonder how much all those millions of animals being tortured on a daily basis, is affecting the world's happiness

I seriously doubt any at all. If I may, this is what I've been repeating
many times and in many ways throughout this thread, and I have been consistent.

You are entitled to your opinion. I disagree. I know that animals feel emotion, pain, and fear. Emotions carry an energy charge. Energy affects the whole planet. There's no way around that.

Billions of animals living in cruel condition, and cruelly slaughtered in a state of pain and terror...that is energy, and it's adding to the darkness of this planet. Highly charged emotional energy doesn't just disappear.

I like the way Monica moderates the ad hominem attacks on food-harmonizers. Character assassination and covert distractions can or should sharpen the STO wits. QED

Character assassination?

Like "you would allow a murderer to kill a child"

You said this yourself, Monkey. You are misrepresenting me. I have asked you to take this up privately. You are now being blatantly disrespectful, challenging a moderator publicly when I've asked you to discuss it privately.

Covert distractions?

Like reminding me to stick to forum rules when I've done nothing to break them?

Is that what you are talking about? I'm confused.
If I have made a comment toward any person here, please locate that comment and let me know.

On the other hand, if there are no comments as such to be found, please contact the moderators and let them know that. I am being accused. I need help in defense.

This is getting out of hand. I didn't accuse you of anything. I simply posted a reminder to heed the guidelines. I've done this many times before and no one ever objected to it. You are creating discord here, Monkey, by continuing to argue this publicly. I sent you a pm so we could work it out. This is turning into a much bigger issue than it needed to be, and the thread is getting more and more derailed, so now will be a mess to clean up.

For clarification, this is not me being angry that Monica said these things.

This is me demonstrating that I have not said anything more worthy of "invoking rules" than Monica has.

Monkey, by digging up old quotes and quoting them out of context. You know full well that I was incredulous at the time, after you explicitly said you were in favor of letting the murderer kill the child. There was no misunderstanding there. You have repeatedly stated this. All I did was echo it back to you, trying to get clarification.

You never denied believing that killers should be allowed to kill children, and in fact repeated it again and again. And now you throw it back at me, for repeating what you said yourself?

You are misrepresenting me, by quoting just snippets of the conversation. You are leaving out your part, where you were the one saying "those things" you now accuse me of, as though so awful.

This has to stop here. This thread has degenerated into petty bickering. I have asked you to pm me if you have a grievance, rather than continuing to post inflammatory and accusatory statements directed at me or anyone else.

These are new quotes!!! You brought these up on the 12th from a conversation from weeks past (so long ago I don't know the date). You brought them up out of context into a conversation where they certainly did not apply. Why? My guess is to exaggerate and to defame me in the process.

I most certainly did deny that I would allow a murder to take place. I denied it emphatically.

You accused me, Monica. You accused me. And it further defames me when you post comments like this, and then finish it with 'as a moderator I ask that you PM any further regards'. Well hell, you could have done that as well, but you didn't. Why? It certainly wasn't out of #1 rule RESPECT.

Not true. I did pm you. As I did the last time too.