11-18-2011, 11:09 AM
(11-17-2011, 10:08 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Are you proposing that an entity who has graduated to 4D STO would be capable of eating an animal alive, inflicting torture on that animal, overcoming the animal's will to live by overpowering it and eating its body parts...while it's still alive??
You added the part about torture, but other than that, yes, that's what I'm suggesting. It seems that you are horrified by the idea of eating an oyster alive but have no problem with eating alfalfa sprouts alive.
(11-17-2011, 10:08 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I disagree. Cows, pigs, and chickens haven't given their bodies. Their bodies were forcibly taken.
It's stealing. There is no gift giving there.
Again I would remind you of the Ra quote that everything in manifestation is offering itself. If harvesting cows, pigs, and chickens is forcible taking then so must be harvesting lettuce, carrots, and celery.
(11-17-2011, 10:08 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:(11-17-2011, 09:47 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: As Austin noted, it does, actually. A product that relies on the petroleum industry for transportation over long distances is less sustainable than one grown in one's own backyard.
Not according to the dictionary definition.
Go back and re-read the dictionary definition, keeping in mind that petroleum is a non-renewable (non-sustainable) resource. Without petroleum, how is the blue-green algae from Klamath lake getting to people who want to eat it?
(11-17-2011, 10:08 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:(11-17-2011, 09:47 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Not caring about the suffering of others...lusting for the taste of plant flesh...Just what are the reasons for eating plants, especially those raised in factory farms?
That's not a fair response. You know that vegetarians do care...that's why we aren't eating animals. It's inaccurate and unfair to accuse vegetarians of not caring.
It's fair to say about meat-eaters but not about plant-eaters? Do you really think everyone who eats meat doesn't care about the suffering of others and lusts for animal flesh?
The phrase "lusts for ... flesh" has a very old-time religion, bible-banger-y feel about it, don't you think? Maybe a little moralistic?
(11-17-2011, 10:08 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: + Native Americans were/are 3D, not 4D.
Right, spiritually advanced and presumably harvestable to 4D, at least some of them. The question was if 4D+ could eat living animals. I think it's possible that 4D descendants of Native Americans, with their reverence for life and their awareness of our interconnection with all living things, could.
(11-17-2011, 10:37 PM)Pickle Wrote: As far as I can see in either direction is corn.
I'm with you on the downsides of grain-fed beef. But grass-fed beef is healthy for both humans and the environment. Properly managed, it requires no tillage, no fertilizer, no pesticide, causes no erosion, and creates an ecosystem teeming with life -- fertile soil, healthy plants, abundant birds and wildlife.