11-18-2011, 09:22 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-18-2011, 10:12 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
(11-18-2011, 08:06 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I agree 100%! He has the most balanced view, he has the best of both worlds, being both holistic and an MD, he is highly spiritually aware so he views diet from a spiritual perspective, and he has tons of experience with those who thought they "couldn't" be vegetarian because of meat cravings. He has a near 100% success rate 'curing' those who "tried but couldn't" be vegetarians!
Yes, this makes total sense! See... but we need to work at the level of craving. At a fundamental level, people crave meat because there is something essential that the meat provides to the body. This seems to go beyond the issue of protein, but is still kind of elusive.
If we can fulfill that function in a different way... then I say go for it. But I don't know that we know what that is just yet. It doesn't appear that nature made this obvious... or has it been occluded from us?
This gets me thinking back to the blood issue. Why blood? Why did the "gods" need blood in order to stay physical? I know mainstream science portrays this taboo against blood as an elaborate fabrication that protected the spread of disease from consuming blood. But I am more inclined to believe that some shenanigans went on that are accurately portrayed in our myths.
Maybe our inability to get past this issue has something to do with collective amnesia about what was really going on back then?
Also, if you happened to restate your views on eating rodents or insects I missed it! (Chances are it is in this thread somewhere at least 10 times but I have no idea where.)

(11-18-2011, 11:21 AM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote:βαθμιαίος Wrote:Because you're OK with killing plants to eat them but you think compassion for animals requires not killing them.
I know this isn't directed at me, but...
Having compassion for an entity requires not killing it, because then there would be no entity to have compassion towards. "Compassionately killing" is like "fear based love". The love and compassion is there, but not in its full potential, being largely blocked/distorted.
Would this apply to all entities, even down to the level of microbes?
(11-18-2011, 07:14 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: Things evolve to where they have a better chance for survival. The better a being survives, the better chance it has to reproduce. It passes on whatever genes allowed it to survive to the next generation. The whole point of passing on genetics is to allow for a better chance of survival to the next generation.
This is true, and why I feel like arguments made on ethical grounds just don't quite hold up. All life tries to survive on a physical level. But is that the whole story? I mean... most people recoil at the thought of their own death, but yet when the time comes the soul drops the body like a soiled undergarment. Compassionate? Well I guess that all depends on what is more real... the soul or the body.