11-19-2011, 12:16 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-19-2011, 02:22 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
(11-19-2011, 02:25 AM)zenmaster Wrote: (uh, we all want free energy, but are not willing to invent it but rather be parasites of entitlement or, as Ra says "hitchhikers").
How can you not see this... people HAVE been willing to invent free energy. And they have been shut down and/or murdered in every case. Ever heard of Eugene Mallove?
Who are you helping by railing against any and all attempts to talk about these things? Maybe I am mischaracterizing your view, but it seems to me that anything which smacks of "conspiracy theory" or "fringe science" is not worth exploring or discussing, according to you. I have pointed to this several times in multiple threads, and you have not responded.
For example, when I offered continued responses to your posts on Spiral Dynamics here and here in Caring/Compassion/Sensitivity/Tact vs Lying/Faking which relate to this discussion. These links are reference for others because I am not going to take the time to recapitulate the ideas again, and it would appear you have deemed them unworthy of a response.
I also referenced multiple times the irony of your claiming that everything Foster Gamble has to say is bunk, while he specifically promotes the views of Ken Wilbur and Spiral Dynamics... both of which you seem to be strongly in support of. You have failed to respond to this as well.
Since free energy is where "conspiracy theory" and "fringe science" meet, I can see why you might refuse to engage in any sort of real discussion about the possibility... instead you are spreading the seeds of separation by portraying yourself as intellectually superior to anybody else who wants to discuss these things.
I've also asked this question before... Are you a physicist or psychologist? Do you have any scientific training? Are you Ken Wilbur or Nassim Haramein? What is it that- in your mind- qualifies you to speak authoritatively on this topic?
Again... maybe I am wrong... in which case please state your view on free energy? Is it possible? If so, what would you think is the most effective way of developing such a technology?
The value of any of these types of viral videos and movies is that it allows the viewer a glimpse into a slice of reality that they would not otherwise see. Why is this? Because the media won't show them. Their teachers won't show them. Their pastors won't show them. And so on.
It offers them a view into what life might be like as viewed from a "higher meme" according to the system of Spiral Dynamics, which you so strongly favor. This is the value, and your failure to acknowledge it is both shocking and disturbing.
You appear to be perturbed by all the amount of pseudo-science that gets passed around the Internet... well... maybe if real scientists took any of these things seriously and investigated them rather than mocking them, then laypeople wouldn't feel so compelled to take matter into their own hands.
As far as impact or "polarization" goes, I think the answer is obvious. If somebody is in the "sinkhole of indifference" a video like this might be enough to jar them out of comfortable numbness. What do you care, anyway? Who are you trying to protect? If these things really have little to no impact, as you say, then who gives a rats-ass one way or another?
Claiming that videos like this don't have any impact, while arguing against several people in this thread who directly state that it actually did have an impact on them seems like flat-out denial to me.