In regards to eating meat

[Tenet Nosce]

Cancer cells grow as a result of a body being out of balance. They are always in the body, and proliferate when the body is out of balance. This can be compared to humans throwing the ecosystem out of balance, and we have a diseased planet.

Right. But then the value of physical life is relative to how well it relates to the overall ecosystem. So the argument that "All life is precious" therefore "Harm no living thing" gets tossed out the window when some other living thing is causing harm to our physical bodies, or the overall ecosystem.

This isn't an argument for eating cows. I am just saying that there are some ideas that seem to come along with vegetarianism that I don't agree with. Not because they offend me, or I simply don't want to accept them. But because they are actually wrong in the sense that they are not consistent with what is true about the world.

I referred to this example before: I lived through a beetle outbreak where it seemed the beetles were poised to take over the whole area. I didn't see anybody too concerned about killing those beetles. I didn't see any beetles rights activists, and so on.

This sort of thing makes me wonder when PETA folks get all uppity about killing animals. Wait. You mean just the furry, cute ones? What's that? Oh killing insects is fine? But aren't they animals too? What about a sardine? Oh you don't really care about that? So...

I find that when most people speak of "killing animals" they are actually speaking of mammals. I see people who call themselves "vegetarian"... but they eat fish? These people apparently don't know the definition of the word "animal", or worse, don't care.

It is a selective application of principles. I believe that it is a sign of a faulty principle if all manner of exceptions need to be made it order to sustain it. Better to look for a new principle that creates the effect one desires, without having to be hypocritical.

Please see my post #1425 regarding the killing of microbes, where I point out that INTENTION matters.

Also, as species living in a world with much larger organisms, microbes have evolved along different lines than animals or plants because of their size. It would not seem logical that a microbe would be individuated, as so many are killed constantly just by normal and natural means.

Saw it. If intention matters, then it matters in all cases across the board. So you have allowed for those who believe that praying over or giving thanks for their meat to use their INTENTION to clear out any negative effects. I happen to agree with this.

Also, as species living in a world with much larger organisms, microbes have evolved along different lines than animals or plants because of their size.

Size has little bearing on the relative value of an entity.

It would not seem logical that a microbe would be individuated, as so many are killed constantly just by normal and natural means.

I don't think anybody is claiming that microbes have individuated. But then again, neither have cows. If an animal soul's INTENTION was to individuate, I would imagine it would incarnate as a housepet, or a dolphin, or something like that.

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If your theory is correct, what is that doing to our planet?

I dunno. I am inclined to believe the planet will be just fine in any case. BUT. What if all the bloodshed had something to do with the ability of a neg to break quarantine and/or stay in operation once here?

This might suggest that it's something more than the act of violence itself (which of course is already a negative act) but something inherently to do with the blood itself.

I think so. It would make sense from a control/manipulation standpoint. Whenever I see "two sides" that just can't seem to come to a consensus, investigation tends to yield that there is a "third side" benefiting from the conflict.

I have found from experience that the structure of the manipulation can be discerned by paying special attention to what neither side is talking about.