In regards to eating meat

[Diana]

Just because I am not able to EVERYTHING to stop causing harm, does not mean that I shouldn't do SOMETHING, or whatever I can.

I just think in some ways it is an impossible goal. At least within the bounds of physicality. It sounds like the world you are envisioning is what is referred to in the Ra material as fifth density.

I am not saying there is anything wrong about striving for this, or with demonstrating to others what is possible. I am just saying that I don't agree that "harmlessness" is the best platform from which to create standards for physical living.

And, honestly, all these arguments about microbes seems a stretch. What can I do about microbes other than what I am doing: cleaning up my body, my life, and my environment, and having the intention not to harm.

You could formulate a positive intention to support life, rather than a negative intention to "not harm" it. The mind has a hard time with double negatives. Plus it is easier to discern life by where it is rather than where it is not.

which is very obvious because the animals themselves are screaming at us to show us what we are doing.

That is a totally subjective statement. Though I acknowledge it may actually be true on some level. What I am trying to get at is that it sounds to me like you are setting yourself up for frustration coming at the issue from this particular angle. But you are free to do as you like.

That is not to say that I impose anthropomorphic qualities on them. I just think the message is there and obvious. I'm sorry if this message is not obvious to you or others.

I don't look to the animals for messages about life and reality. I look to the Source within myself. This Source informs me that harmlessness is not the principle by which humanity will agree to stop eating meat. Would you expect me to trust your characterization of animal messages over my own inner connection to Source?

Why do you think whales beach themselves?

I wouldn't know. But certainly the whales are not consciously aware of the experiments being conducted on lab rats. So I am not sure what you are getting at.

I'm actually very educated on the subject of nutrition, health, and physiology.

Then, sorry to mischaracterize your understanding.

I live my life without intentionally killing, do you not see that this will have results?

Yes, I see that this will have the results of attempting to live one's life based upon negative action (NOT doing something) rather than positive action. Such results tend to be restricting to those experiencing them.

In the end, focusing attention upon what is "not wanted" only results in the creation of more that is "not wanted".

I'm not focusing on what's not wanted. I do focus on supporting life. I am focusing on respect for all life. I feel that all of my views and words are being misunderstood, or held up to a standard of scrutiny that does not include trying to understand me.

I base my life on what I do. I make a choice when a spider is in the house: kill it, take it outside. I take it outside.

I choose plant life instead of animal life for sustenance. In this thread, in an effort to shed light upon the subject, it may seem as though I am focusing on not what to do.

I apologize and will try to more clear.

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I would like to add that in regards to eating meat I have a personal path, and an objective path:

1) PERSONAL: I will most likely not devolve (my view) to eating meat because of anything said in this thread.

2) OBJECTIVE: I am interested in exploring the best good for 3rd and 4th Density. Because of my personal path, I have had a narrow view of the objective good. I have thanked the participants in this thread before, all views, because it expands my awareness of what is most in harmony for the best good in general in this 3D existence. So I welcome all views.