(11-21-2011, 12:23 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:Self-awareness comes from the spirit complex which needs a mind/body complex capable with suitable capabilities. Ra said something like a few months after a human body is formed there could be such an investment.(11-21-2011, 12:08 AM)zenmaster Wrote: 3D entities are self-aware. 2D aren't. Fairly simple, and of course not "counter to what Ra told us".
Self-awareness doesn't happen in an instant. It's a process, that develops over time. We know from Ra that the criteria for a 2D entity to be harvested to 3D is self-awareness.
That means the awareness has to happen in 2d.
I am astonished that you have stated all 2D isn't self-aware. I'm wondering how you could consider a dog or cat not self-aware?
(11-21-2011, 12:23 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:Dolphins are 2D entities, yes.(11-21-2011, 12:08 AM)zenmaster Wrote:(11-20-2011, 08:28 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:(11-20-2011, 11:56 AM)zenmaster Wrote: Also, killing off the higher, more socially capable, 2D life forms such as apes (due to deforestation and mining) or dolphins (fishing/pollution) and increasing the pet experience instead is likely the cause of a lot of newcomer 3D confusion here.
Dolphines are 3D, not 2.
Dolphins being 2D would be counter to what Ra told us.
Your previous statement killing off the higher, more socially capable, 2D life forms such as apes... or dolphins seemed to indicate that you thought dolphins were 2D.
"20.4 Questioner: Then can you give me an example of an entity in third density that was just previously a second-density entity? What type of entity do they become here?
Ra: I am Ra. As a second-density entity returns as third-density for the beginning of this process of learning, the entity is equipped with the lowest, if you will so call these vibrational distortions, forms of third-density consciousness; that is, equipped with self-consciousness."
"20.5 Questioner: This would be a human in our form then who would be beginning the understandings of third density. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct."
I believe the above unequivocally addresses both questions.