(11-20-2011, 01:09 PM)Diana Wrote: I'm pretty sure that PETA is not about that--only caring about the cute and furry. PETA has "chosen their battle" so to speak. PETA is helping animals being tested on especially, which does not occur so much with insects.
Yes. It's, quite frankly, absurd to criticize an activist group for not doing everything. No one can be expected to do everything. They are doing way more than most of us do, so they should be commended.
(11-20-2011, 01:09 PM)Diana Wrote: As for me, I respect all life. I kill nothing, not even cockroaches. I carried a scorpion outside (in a jar) that had bitten me in bed. Every opportunity I get I try and save a life (someone "just because" killing a spider for instance; I don't lecture the person, I just carry it outside).
Wow. You are way ahead of me, Diana! I want to be like you when I grow up!
(11-20-2011, 01:09 PM)Diana Wrote: About the microbes: what I meant about the size was, how would microbes get around the fact that because of their microscopic size they get smushed easily, hence, the effects of such a happening would be accepted as it is inevitable. Not so with larger beings.
Yes, good point.
(11-21-2011, 10:04 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: A humanely-raised animal flourishes throughout its life. It doesn't suffer any more than does a vegetable until the moment of death.
Try substituting human for animal:
A humanely-treated person flourishes throughout its life. It doesn't suffer any more than does a cow until the moment it is murdered.
(11-21-2011, 10:04 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Woo-hoo, some agreement! How cool!
Austin and I have agreed on a great deal. I have great respect for his views, even though we disagree on the ultimate action of killing those animals for meat. I see Austin as part of the solution, not part of the problem. So yes, agreement is always cool. Finding common ground and working together is always cool.
I have never argued for everyone being totally vegan, though I personally am gravitating towards raw vegan. Eggs and dairy can be produced without any cruelty. (Although the commercially produced eggs and dairy definitely are done so cruelly.) My argument is specifically about eating animals...meat.