12-01-2011, 11:49 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-02-2011, 12:57 AM by Tenet Nosce.)
(12-01-2011, 11:16 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Thanks for the thoughtful explanation, Tenet!
OK.. also be sure to go back and check on the post again. I think I added to it after you read it.
(12-01-2011, 11:16 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I don't disagree with the nested densities concept. I just don't see them as solid and separate. I think entities can 'quantum jump' from 1 reality to another. This idea is supported by M Theory and the work of Nassim Haramein, and is explored in the movie What the Bleep (tho some of the science in that movie is a bit shaky.)
Well, I would hope so! Which is why I would be "shocked and amazed" that you would conclude that third density becomes fourth density. In particular due to this quote:
February 10, 2008 - Session 13 - Closing Meditation
Q'uo Wrote:We realize that it is difficult to imagine what shall happen after the year 2012, since that is when third density ends and fourth density begins. And we can only describe to you that which is to occur by asking you to realize that all of the densities of Planet Earth within this octave, one through seven, are nested together and interpenetrate each other, much as the various channels on your television set are nested together, being picked up by the same transmitters and receivers and being available by the turn of the knob from one to another to another.
Indeed, there are those among your peoples who are able to switch from the channel of third density to the channel of fourth density now [we can "switch channels"?!!] , and who can somewhat reliably report on the development of fourth density. Fourth density, indeed, is fully formed at this time. Because it would violate the free will of third-density entities, fourth density chooses not to be seen, not to be visible to the five senses of your human bodies. Yet it is impossible to eliminate or hide the vibrations of fourth density, which are interpenetrating third density at this time.
Indeed, it is not even desirable to attempt to hide or remove these waves upon waves of fourth-density energy. For they are another part of that which is enabling the last of those who would be harvested at the end of third density on Planet Earth to do their work, to proceed, and to polarize to the extent that they shall, with no trouble whatsoever, walk the steps of light that lead into fourth density.
However, third-density Earth has absorbed a great deal of the accumulated neglect that speaks to the racial karma of many, many of those who are upon Planet Earth at this time, who have come to this planet from planets in which their own third density was interrupted by their removing the ability to live a third-density existence on their home planet. In some cases they have even blown their planet to smithereens. In other cases they have simply rendered the planet or, in Atlantis’ case, the continent, uninhabitable.
There has been an ever-increasing energy among those who are incarnate upon Planet Earth at this time towards desiring to retake the reins of stewardship of Gaia, of Mother Earth, and to administer healing and restoration to the planet which has been so loving and so good to them, and has been their home. And this shall continue for some hundreds of your years to be that great work which many [not all] who graduate from third density wish to accomplish before they move on into other lessons.
So, at this time there is a tremendous energy of new life and new growth upon your planet, due to the influx of fourth-density wanderers from your own planet. Those of you who have children know that these children are qualitatively different than the children that perhaps you knew as a child, or those children which have lived here in centuries past. These are children who are able to run third-density energy and light and fourth-density energy and light. Therefore, to them the veil is much thinner, and the truth of love is much more obvious.
So, within these days when 2012 has come and gone, information such as is collected and offered for sharing by this group shall be increasingly helpful because there will be far more interest in the spiritual as opposed to the religious. And those words which speak to the stewardship of the planet, as well as those words which speak of unconditional love and the oneness of all things, shall be as meat and drink to those who are searching for the way to be of maximum service at this time.
Many and many are those who are incarnate at this time as fourth-density wanderers from third density Earth. They have come back for the reason of stewardship to the planet, and within this next five-year period, for the lightening of Planet Earth and the maximization of the harvest of Earth. [This is the "true" purpose of Wanderers, by this I mean as in "true north" of their inner compass]
This is that of which we see as a valuable service, and we are ready to offer our thoughts through instruments such as this one not only until 2012 but as long as there are those entities upon Planet Earth who are devoted to the restoration of the planet and to the healing of the nations.
Shall you in one fine, strong moment be able to change the face of the Earth? Naturally, it is extremely unlikely. It is likely that those who are polarizing towards negative graduation shall continue to hog the news, the headlines, and the avenues of power on this planet. And yet the vast majority of the population of Planet Earth lives without regard to the avenues of power, looking for truth, justice, liberty, beauty and all the fourth-density values within the humble pages of a humbly-lived life.
Based on your signature, I think Q'uo may have intended this one especially for you!
(12-01-2011, 10:48 PM)Diana Wrote: If I understand this, you're saying that the densities are separate (though nested). But aren't all things connected? Electrons "pop in and out of existence." Where do they go, and why do we only sometimes "see" them? Could it be that different dimensions have a flow in-between them? If so, it would make sense that one could aspire to 4D while in 3D and help pull the energy toward it for all or self.
I think this addresses these questions quite nicely. And also, please read what I quoted in my response to Bring4th_Monica, as this "just so happens" to come from the same session where Q'uo is talking about nested densities:
http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is...10_04.aspx
Q'uo Wrote:The new paradigm is that in which entities share and share alike, in which entities love each other, become harmonious with each other, and create one world of peace and prosperity. That kind of prosperity does not create huge differences in estate but rather tends toward that happy situation of there being enough of the resources that are needed for all entities.
It is not that this new paradigm can be put into effect and a new fourth-density planet be created in third density. That is not what we are saying. What we are saying is that in third density, the focus in terms of the purpose of third density is upon each emerging self-aware spirit or soul becoming able to make the free-will choice between the polarity of service to others and the polarity of service to self through faith alone.
All I am trying to say is that this free-will choice can be made by a meat-eater. And upon arrival in fourth-density they will not be offered meat to eat. Problem solved.