12-02-2011, 12:41 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-02-2011, 05:12 AM by Tenet Nosce.)
(12-02-2011, 12:33 AM)Ruth Wrote: Tenet Nosce, do you think Q'uo is saying that we should be trying to hog the avenues of power? That doing so would somehow assist with changing the face of the Earth?
No, I would infer that Q'uo would suggest precisely not trying to hog the avenues of power. This is why I tend to downplay the importance of advocacy and "rising up" against the establishment. This is also why I feel like trying to legislate "4D values" or behaviors misses the mark.
The government really isn't in charge anyway. They clearly answer to transnational corporations and banks. It just seems like wasted effort to me.
I would advise a tactic more focused on withdrawal of support or nonviolent nonparticipation in those avenues of power currently being hogged. This definitely means not buying Tyson chicken... but as for an organic free-range chicken from the farm up the street? I just don't see how that makes sense. Those are the people that I do want to support. I don't see anything wrong with their raising animals for meat. When they get to 4D they will need to find a new job, and new food, along with the rest of us. I see those people as allies, not enemies.
Why would we waste our precious time (it is of the essence) on idealistic battles aimed at the global implementation of vegetarianism? I think such a feat would require time beyond the "few hundred years" we have been given. It would appear easily overlooked that people have been arguing about vegetarianism for at least 6000 years- since before the Ra contact with Imhotep. If you ask me- I think it mostly serves the interests of the power hogs to keep the people fighting over these idealistic side-issues.
If one observes the world right now- it seems that every special interest group with a particular agenda has at some level decided that 2012 is the year to "make it happen". Whether the agenda is "good" or "evil" doesn't matter. It has a negative effect on polarity. Why so quick to draw lines in the sand and take up battle arms? What program is telling us to prepare for "Armageddon"? Which voices are we really listening to? :idea:
(09 Apr 89)
Q'uo Wrote:However, that Armageddon, shall we say, has been raging for two hundred of your years already upon the spirit plane and seems to be that which has no probability either way, for the good [in] winning loses its polarity and must fall back to regroup, at which time the negative moves forward to take light. The battle is a delusion of fourth density, which fourth density entities learn for themselves the wisdom or folly of.
The battle is a delusion. This q'uote is over twenty years old. And still some 4D entities associated with Earth continue to rage Armageddon on the spirit plane. Haven't they had enough yet? Or will they not rest until every last animal roams free in the streets? I suppose they, too, would declare that they just "do not resonate" with those of Q'uo.

There are other hot-button side-issues such as this one. I won't name them all so as not to be incendiary and further derailing, but think about what other kinds of "highly charged" topics become non-issues when truly viewed from a higher perspective.
I will give one example... murder. See, in third density the veil allows me to believe that separating your consciousness from your body will somehow free me from your influence. Since you appear "dead" I get to believe that you can no longer exert whatever negative influence I thought you had over me. Of course in actuality, my believing this doesn't really make it true. But at least I get to live in my little fantasy world for a while, or until I bite the big one myself at which point I will be promptly smacked in the proverbial face with the reality that I previously denied.
In fourth density, such logic is absurd. It is patently obvious that such an act would only serve to karmically bind me to you. Moreover, prematurely separating your consciousness from your body might even result in you receiving a new and improved body with which to point and laugh at me for actually having done you a service! Therefore it is not morally wrong inasmuch as just plain stupid or nonsensical. Therefore, not really an issue. To me... this is what is really meant by "4D values".
Then again, it would appear that many 4D entities still perceive participating in battles of various sorts as wise and/or necessary, so maybe I am projecting 5D/6D values into 4D. :exclamation:
Nevertheless, I also find this happens to explain why negative entities use murder as a means of last resort. It is much more advantageous to imprison their adversaries, whether in physical shackles hanging from a dungeon wall, or in a tiny cubicle with fluorescent lighting, or even in their own living room watching Jersey Shore. Whatever suits the spirit of the times. I think when certain people get "taken out" it is a sign that something went horribly awry with the negative agenda. Something slipped past their ability to control because at the highest levels they understand what really happens on the other side of the veil. It is a sign of desperation or "failure to accept that which is given".
(09 Apr 89, cont.)
Q'uo Wrote:However, you are more than pawns in this game. These entities are not more powerful than you, not in the metaphysical sense. That is, perhaps they might, in some negative manner, cause the entity to cease living, cause the discomfort or the pain, the embarrassment or the humiliation or the fright, but they too are bound by the basic laws of free will and prey largely upon those whose minds are not complex in their thinking processes.
Interesting. This would seem to imply that killing another entity is not actually an act of power in favor of the killer.
Obi Wan Kenobi Wrote:If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.
When contrasted with imprisoning consciousness within the body, and not allowing it to freely depart. Now that is a real crime in my book.