"Thrive" is amazing must watch!

[zenmaster]

I've seen it demo'd before and this looks like the more of the same. I don't see anything special? Is there supposed to be an implication there?

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I was under the impression these generated energy due to the implementation of the torus shape.

No. They create turn electricity into a magnetic field. They do not generate energy, that's already coming out of the electrical socket.

In the TED talk, the presenter mentions it wasn't connected to an electrical source.



Skip to 7:30.

I'm not ignoring your suggestion. I've seen the video and the device before. The spinning ball is just spinning very fast and has a great deal of momentum and very little friction. I'd speculate that there is a boundary layer effect between ball and glass dish which helps.

For one to label something 'untrue' directly implies you know everything.

They claim the toroid device is providing free energy, when it is not. One doesn't need to "know everything" in order to point out the obvious - that they're not providing some workable free-energy device or free-energy principle. We're not "blinded" by being ignorant of the toroid.

A magnetic field is a toroid shape. Big deal.

That's not the point. No one is an authority that can pronounce that 'it is obvious' that energy from a torus is untrue. It could well be true, just not part of the paradigms of science/understanding at this point in time.

But, that's not the point. You can't suggest a belief or an unsubstantiated vision as a workable free-energy solution, something people have been ignoring while working on something else, while being closed minded to the obvious. That's what is called 'superstition' a 'vague notion', and/or disingenuous, plain and simple. That's what I meant by 'untrue'. You don't HAVE to be omniscient to evaluate an unsupported claim.

We're not talking about a toroid shape never possibly being involved in some potential future energy solution, and denying that possibility.

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