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    Thread: Symbiote


    Ali Quadir (Offline)

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    11-03-2009, 09:00 PM
    (11-03-2009, 10:40 AM)Questioner Wrote:
    (11-02-2009, 06:17 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: I had a friend who sensed it and would banish it for me. I did not like that prospect at all. The presence was worrying, but banishing it felt like a stab to my gut.

    Feelings in the gut can be associated with the solar plexus. The solar plexus in turn is a physical site of integrity of self-identity and decision making. A sharp pain in the gut is often associated with an attack from outside. This would be an attack on one's integrity and freedom of choice. I have felt that myself, at times. This was when other people had made choices very destructive to me and tried to impose those choices on me, overriding my free will.
    Which was basically the behavior of my friend, and the feeling felt like a response to it. I think it's the same feeling you describe.

    Quote:Could it be that the feeling was actually not yours? Could that feeling have been the guest entity you described, fearful or angry as it lost the use of your body?
    It was my late teens, the concept empathy was not clearly explained to me... But I had it.. However the entity didn't ever take control of my body. I just felt it in my mind. It's not as if it tried to influence me into doing things. It's mind was just there and it had opinions and moods.

    So it could have easily been the guest yes. The emotion accompanying the stab did not feel as a threat to me personally. It just felt cruel. On the other hand if faced with self pity (the guest) then the feeling of witnessing cruelty is often a projection partly or whole. I often wondered if I was wrong there. I even had a falling out with that friend partly over this.

    This whole thing has "twofaces" all over.

    Quote:
    Quote:I admit it wasn't smart.
    I wonder if you could discuss that a little more. Or rather, could you discuss what you think now is a smarter way to think about this.
    My actions can be described as "fools blunder in where wise men fear to tread". I knew nothing, expected nothing and even had a hard time figuring out who I was supposed to be. I did not really care about the risks. I was slightly self destructive. I guess I had my share of those wanderer blues...

    I have no smarter way now. If it happened again I'd have to improvise again. And I can't predict my choices.

    Quote:
    Quote:In Sufism, my particular brand of religion, the individual does not exist but is an emergent quality from its components. Who also don't exist because they're an emergent quality from their components. And so on until we've after a days hard work effectively proven nothing can exist so we can begin drinking the nonexistent wine and laughing about jokes that don't exist either which is perfectly fine.

    That sounds like a delightful path to enlightenment, no pun intended.
    I don't see any of them now. We are geographically very distant. And our paths just drifted apart. But I had great fun while it lasted. Sufism encourages it's followers to study and practice parts of other religions that they see as adding to their lives. The core tenet is to be a jewel thief. Find the best gems, then steal em for your own treasure chest. They're usually pretty open to new ideas.

    Quote:Are you familiar with the "many I's" discussions of Gurdjieff, and if so is that just another way to describe what you learn in Sufism?
    Actually I don't know Gurdjieff as well as he deserves to be known. But Gurdjieff was the man who introduced Sufism to the west. He specifically introduced Hazrat Inayat Khan who is the source of my particular tradition. If it wasn't for Gurjieff I would probably not be a Sufi. So I certainly owe him a debt of gratitude.

    The reason Gurdjieff carried the Sufi's with him was that they resonated with him. He took many ideas from many people. I called the Sufi's jewel thiefs... He stole some of their jewels. A sufi getting robbed of his jewels is the summit of their philosophy! I imagine they would have liked the man. And that "many I's" idea could be inspired by Sufism because they very much share the notion. I've read some on the theory. I rather understand these I's to be almost blended into one at some points and pretty separate from each other at other points. Also they don't end in the body many of the minds are shared. Sufi's and Gurdjieff share the idea that mind exists of many subminds. Like water poored into a cup... You can see it as many drops and just one drop at the same time.

    gharghur Wrote:Can certainly appreciate your sense of humor.
    Agree there are a variety of symbiotic relationships ongoing in many entities: lower density lifeforms going about their normal activities within a higher density lifeform.
    You are correct. There are billions of third density lifeforms on this planet. All at different stages of awareness. RA suggests that within the third density there are eight levels of awareness, similar to the eight colors of the chakra. Yet, each level has a multitude of levels within it. My experience suggests that this is in fact true. Relatively new third density beings are certainly more animalistic/emotional than older entities. Their thought perceptions are single-minded, and their purpose is self (family) preservation. As one evolves into a greater understanding, those characteristics are still present, but they take on a lesser and lesser significance.
    I think this is correct. One could say that all these "single minded" perceptions are individual members of the symbiote who have become so dependent on each other that we cannot separate them. We often see them as one because something came into being that's neither one or the other. We usually only experience this trancendent result and not the ingredients of the symbiote those become less important. And every trancendence puts us on a higher level of awareness where we can again create the ingredients for the trancendent child that will lift us up even higher.


    Quote:You took an interesting risk, with your acceptance of the negative entity's request. A true exercise of service to others on a elevated scale of awareness. It certainly appears that you have passed your own test. Kudos!
    Thank you but I don't deserve the credit. I blundered into it it did not take a toll. And it wasn't smart.. Elevated awareness is not exactly the state I was in. Smile Sometimes stupid choices work out.

    Quote:Thank you for sharing, and helping to confirm a major part of this quiry.
    You had a clear opinion of your own. And it appears quite reliable.

    Namaste.

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    Symbiote - by gharghur - 11-01-2009, 09:39 PM
    RE: Symbiote - by Questioner - 11-02-2009, 02:01 AM
    RE: Symbiote - by gharghur - 11-02-2009, 02:16 AM
    RE: Symbiote - by Ali Quadir - 11-02-2009, 12:53 PM
    RE: Symbiote - by Marina - 11-02-2009, 03:09 PM
    RE: Symbiote - by Ali Quadir - 11-02-2009, 06:17 PM
    RE: Symbiote - by Questioner - 11-03-2009, 10:40 AM
    RE: Symbiote - by Ali Quadir - 11-03-2009, 09:00 PM
    RE: Symbiote - by Marina - 11-03-2009, 03:24 PM
    RE: Symbiote - by gharghur - 11-03-2009, 11:37 AM
    RE: Symbiote - by Questioner - 11-03-2009, 11:15 PM
    RE: Symbiote - by Ali Quadir - 11-05-2009, 09:28 AM
    RE: Symbiote - by gharghur - 11-05-2009, 03:21 PM
    RE: Symbiote - by Questioner - 11-05-2009, 10:46 PM
    RE: Symbiote - by gharghur - 11-05-2009, 11:44 PM
    RE: Symbiote - by Questioner - 11-06-2009, 11:12 AM
    RE: Symbiote - by gharghur - 11-06-2009, 12:22 PM
    RE: Symbiote - by Marina - 11-06-2009, 02:12 PM
    RE: Symbiote - by Questioner - 11-07-2009, 09:54 PM
    RE: Symbiote - by gharghur - 11-07-2009, 09:48 PM
    RE: Symbiote - by gharghur - 11-18-2009, 05:50 AM
    RE: Symbiote - by Marina - 11-18-2009, 12:05 PM

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