(12-07-2011, 12:40 AM)zenmaster Wrote:(12-07-2011, 12:14 AM)Diana Wrote: Yikes! I disagree. In some ways I see what you're saying. But most people, in my opinion, are still asleep; so movies like this may help awaken them out of their unconsciousness.Who is not asleep and who is not awake? The "sleeping/awake" dichotomy is one designed to create separation between someone's notion of what it means to be conscious and what it means to be unconscious.
I see your point here. I was succumbing to cliche language to explain myself. I agree that the concept creates separatism and elitism. I can't help wishing that humans do wake up, however, to the suffering caused from things like mindless consuming. By awake, I mean conscious of wanting to be conscious, if that makes sense.
(12-07-2011, 12:40 AM)zenmaster Wrote:(12-07-2011, 12:14 AM)Diana Wrote: When I envision the future, it has nothing to do with my ego, and everything to do with helping to create a more balanced and evolved existence.That's just it, there is a difference between what one vaguely hopes for and what one is currently creating, experientially now, which actually serves to promote consciousness and 'polarity' for oneself and for others. I disagree that you have actually transcended your ego. That's a 'I want to do it' position which you have confused with your 'hope' for something more, which you have associated with these shows. Such hopes are necessarily ego-based.
I never said that I have transcended my ego, far from it. I do not consider myself very evolved. I do however endeavor to create my reality consciously. I do not think that my envisioning a future without cruelty is ego-based. Perhaps I'm wrong; I don't have to be right; this just makes sense to me. And for the record, just because I said the movies were good, does not mean I "follow" them, or get on their bandwagons. I think for myself.
If you had a child, and the child was cruel to animals or a pet, would you allow the cruelty so the child could have free will? Would you not desire that the child stop being cruel and kindly teach and guide? This is the way I see our present-day situation. There is so much suffering. Suffering may be what humans have chosen. I am not so certain about the animal and plant life, or even the Earth. I can't help wanting (and if this is ego so be it) humans to wake up to the cruelty and selfishness of the destruction we have caused. But I don't go around preaching; I envision a better future.