Unbelievable moonbases and wrong science

[Lavazza]

Hey Questioner, and everyone,

This has been a topic of growing interest for me, not so much any longer about Moon bases per se, but the approach that many other-selves have taken to such things. In the thread about Carla's challenge we discussed this a bit and I was honestly quite surprised when I learned that several accept the Moon base information as literally true. I wish to state at this point that I mean this with as little judgment as possible- I have infinite respect for each and every one and what they hold to be true. Our very reality is subjective and can't be taken TOO seriously. Having said this, it is my belief that information given about moon bases (and related transient information) came as a result of de-tuning of the contact.

I present this post with the intent of light-hearted debate. I do not wish to "prove" anyone wrong or win some sort of debate competition. I do feel it is a worthwhile discussion however in light of the fact that many new members are coming to the forum who may not know much about the esoteric, channeling or TLOO at all, and may find the material as equally confusing as I did when I first read it. I simply wish to present my viewpoint, while hopefully gaining insight in to others' viewpoints.

Allow me to quote from Book V of the Law of One, messages from Jim and Carla that preceed the (infamous?) moon base session (I will bold portions that I feel are important)

Jim: Early in the Ra contact we received answers to our questions which fell into a controversial portion of our third-density illusion. Almost everyone, at some point within the study of the paranormal, spends some time being fascinated by the so-called “conspiracy theories” which have generally to do with the supposedly unseen groups and individuals who are said to be the real powers behind governments and their activities in the world today. Such theories usually hold that the news reports that we hear and read concerning politics, economics, the military, and so forth are but the tip of a very large iceberg that has mainly to do with various schemes for world domination and which function through the secret activities of this small, elite group of human beings and their alien allies.

The following information falls into this category and resulted from a follow-up question Don asked about UFOs and their sources. You will note Don’s incredulous attitude throughout this portion of his questioning. It was our decision to remove this information from Book One of The Law of One because we felt it to be entirely unimportant and of a transient nature since knowing it adds nothing to one’s ability or desire to seek the truth and the nature of the evolutionary process, whether the information is true or not. In fact, knowing and continuing to seek this kind of information can become a major stumbling block to one’s spiritual journey because it removes one’s attention from the eternal truths which may serve anyone’s journey—at any time—and places it upon that which is only of fleeting interest and of little use spiritually. Concentrating on conspiracy theories and their participants tends to reinforce the illusion of separation and ignores the love that binds all things as One Being. If we had continued to pursue this particular line of questioning, or any other line of questioning of a transient nature, we would soon have lost the contact with those of Ra because, as Ra mentioned in the very first session, Ra communicated with us through a “narrow band” of vibration or wave length.

Through various clues that Ra gave us when Don asked about the alignments at the end of each session, we were able to determine that this “narrow band” meant that only information of the purest and most precise nature concerning the process of the evolution of mind, body, and spirit could be successfully transmitted on a sustainable basis through our instrument. To ask Ra questions of a transient nature would be like trying to run a finely-tuned engine on crude petroleum.

Many groups become fascinated with transient information of a specific, mundane nature and have their information polluted by negative entities who gradually replace the positive entities that began their contact. Pursuing information of this kind is like moving the dial on your radio so that you end up with another station altogether from the one with which you began. This change in desire for the kind of information that the group seeks from its contact is the signal to that contact that what it has to offer is no longer desired, and the Law of Free Will requires that only hints of this de-tuning process be given to the group so that all choices that the group makes are totally a product of its free will. When a group continues to seek the transient information, the positive contact gives hints here and there that such information is not of importance, but when the group persists in seeking this kind of information, the positive contact, in order to observe the free will of the group, must slowly withdraw and is then eventually replaced by a negative contact which is only too happy to give this kind of information, but with less desire for accuracy and with maximal desire to remove the group from the ranks of those who serve others. When the group has been discredited by false information—such as dates of future disasters which are publicized by the group and then do not occur—then the negative entities have been successful in removing the power of the group’s light and have gathered it for themselves.

We still feel that this information is totally unimportant, and the only reason that we include it now is to show how easy it is for a group to get off the track, shall we say, and to lose the focus of desire for that which is important and that with which the group began: the desire to serve others by gathering information which may aid in the evolution of mind, body, and spirit. Ten thousand years from now it will not matter one whit who did what to whom on this tiny speck of whirling dust. All that will matter is that love may be found at any time in every person and particle of the one creation, or any illusion thereof. Hopefully information gained through any effort such as the Ra contact will help some other third-density entities to discover more of that truth and to move one step further on their evolutionary journey to the one Creator.

Carla: All I can add to this is a plea to all official sources: we do not know anything, we are not in on any conspiracies, and please, please don’t tap our telephones … again! When Don and I joined Andrija Puharich for a mind-link in 1977, we caught the attention of some agency who played havoc with our telephone system. And how utterly without use to listen in to our converse! Mystics seldom plot! We honestly don’t care about this stuff, and just stumbled into it by accident.

I’d like to point out the way those of Ra seem here somewhat off-balance compared to their usual steady selves. It is subtle, but easy to see—the opening to each answer is normally “I am Ra.” Several times in this fragment, however, that signature is missing. The contact was going slightly out of tune here, I think, due to the information’s transient nature.

I pretty much feel the same as Jim and Carla here. It's worth mention that Jim makes it clear that he does not know if the information is true or not, granted. But I think Carla sums it up nicely at the end of the text, that the contact was very likely simply going out of tune.

This brings me to what is catching my interest lately with this topic, that others feel that the moon base information (when I say this I also wish to encompass ocean bases, and sky bases) is literally true. My question is, why? Especially when the information is not central at all to spiritual development?

Is it worth making mention that there is a growing number of people who hold their own spiritual text as literally true, that is, the Bible? And the implications being the belief in a 6000 year old universe, among other things? The similarity is that the both the Bible and the Law of One books lay their respective claims in writing, and both books have "other worldly" origins (for lack of better words). Does this elevate the information therein so high as to become irrefutable? Or could it be more plausible that the universe is not 6000 years old, or that there are not bases on the moon, but merely that what is written in each book is not correct (for whatever reason)? Why does the 'literally true' interpretation hold such validity?

Is it wise to hold ANY source of information as 100% accurate, literally true?

I seek to understand your position, other-selves. In all honesty, I would rather believe the information given than not believe. For one it would be pretty freaking cool. For two, it would make it much easier to consider that TLOO information contained absolutely no distortions.