12-10-2011, 12:49 AM
(12-09-2011, 01:37 AM)zenmaster Wrote: My position with respect to conspiracies has never been that they don't exist, or that they somehow should not be investigated.
Somewhere I got the distinct impression that was your position.
Quote:It's when one takes a particular conspiracy idea which is merely seen to be plausible, a possibility, and claim it to be true (historically, currently) and, from such a premise, divisive action to 'correct' the fabricated imbalance is taken - by promoting or acting upon such a fundamental dishonesty.
There are two kinds of divisive acts. The first is an action against the other (Let's take out the oppressors!) the other is an action for the self (Let's move in a different direction). I actually didn't see any admonition in this particular movie toward the first kind.
Gospel of Thomas Wrote:2. Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. [And after they have reigned they will rest.]"
Quote:What is morally wrong is the perception that the ends are seen to justify the means in order to fulfill an agenda. The ends are getting people to 'wake up' to some 'now-exposed' reality 'X' using the utterly dishonest vehicle of a guessed or imagined idea.
What, exactly, do you suppose is being imagined here in this specific case? Please describe the "guessed or imagined idea" employed in this video.
Quote:there are always real alternatives coming from and bridging to something from actual, less 'tainted', disciplined experience, substantiated, more accepting, balanced and viable.
Such as?