12-11-2011, 01:57 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-11-2011, 07:47 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
(12-11-2011, 12:53 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Yeah, sports fans being entertained vs somewhat polarized, or 'poised-to-be awakened' 'seekers' being given a prejudicial map filled with conspiracy lies and pre-rational, magical thinking.
Yes, like how organized sports reinforce the notion that humans are inherently violent and competitive. Remember about how the false Yahweh genetically manipulated humans so as to become more bellicose?? It supports expression of that.
Also how it reinforces the paradigm that there is really nothing more to our existence here... so let's just whoop it up, drink tons of beer, and slap our bellies together when "our team" beats "their team", and pound even more beers if we lose! Yup... that is what life is all about... "winning". Who cares if a few little boys get raped in the process? Bottom line is... if "my team" wins, that makes me a "winner", too.
How is that for pre-rational, magical thinking?
But whatever you do, don't watch that Thrive video! It might corrupt your mind and cause you to subscribe to a false paradigm of reality.

Quote:That's pointing out the obvious, no one would disagree. Who said anything about dubious?
Well... the movie doesn't take the "conspiracy" talk any further than the pyramid ponzi scheme operating behind the scenes. Would it have been better to put an upside down pyramid at the top- inhabited by all the orders of highly evolved beings, with the Logos at the highest level transforming even the most heinous of acts into a positive? Maybe so...
But you seem to be saying that this movie makes unfounded claims with respect to the controlling elite of the world. You do realize, of course, that the majority of Americans still think the "government" is in charge, right?
But besides this, the answer to "Who said anything about dubious?" is you.
zenmaster Wrote:'seekers' being given a prejudicial map filled with conspiracy lies
Quote:du·bi·ous/ˈd(y)o͞obēəs/
Adjective:
Hesitating or doubting.
Not to be relied upon; suspect.
Synonyms:
doubtful - uncertain - questionable - shady - equivocal
So what, exactly, are the "conspiracy lies" in this movie? I'm not sure how many times I will need to ask this question before you respond to it. But it isn't going to go away. I will keep asking this question as many times as you ignore it.
Quote:If humanity had free energy, there would be an excess heat problem on a scale beyond imagination. Our devices and machines, which use electricity, are not superconductors. There would be a huge security problem, since most of the limiting factors for weapons delivery have to do with cost and engineering of the power source. And of course, the possible weapons themselves.
Actually, we have already taken some steps to address this. For example, there is already technology in development that would allow for small devices to scavenge electromagnetic energy from the air, and even the human body.
Student Innovation Transmits Data and Power Wirelessly Through Submarine Hulls
Novel Artificial Material Could Facilitate Wireless Power
First Self-Powered Device With Wireless Data Transmission
Human Gait Could Soon Power Portable Electronics
Electricity from the Nose: Engineers Make Power from Human Respiration
As for storage and even distribution of the energy... we have made substantial progress on that as well.
Nanoparticle Electrode for Batteries Could Make Grid-Scale Power Storage Feasible
Quote:ScienceDaily (Nov. 23, 2011) — Stanford researchers have used nanoparticles of a copper compound to develop a high-power battery electrode that is so inexpensive to make, so efficient and so durable that it could be used to build batteries big enough for economical large-scale energy storage on the electrical grid -- something researchers have sought for years.
zenmaster Wrote:It may just be a 'good idea' that such tech is withheld at this time when we could die rather quickly as a direct consequence of its dissemination.
Maybe it would be for the best if we just ended the experiment? I don't believe this... but there are those groups out there who do.
Quote:We haven't.
OK. Then, how long shall we wait? It seems to me that, left to their own devices, humans would spend most of their time slaving away for transnational corporations during the week in order to buy trinkets and fancy gadgets, and would be content to spend their weekends drinking beer and watching "the game" on their flatscreen, which they worked a whole month (or more) to be able to afford to purchase with the little green papers that pass for "money" which are left over after the government takes their "fair share".
Meanwhile, 3.5 billion people live on less than $2.50 a day, and 1 billion of those could quite possibly starve before the end of the year.
Meanwhile, a small, but powerful, group of individuals proceeds with their depopulation agendas, and seeking to herd humanity into accepting a system of complete control by a world government with these selfsame individuals at the helm. This is not "conspiracy theory". There are members of the CFR, IMF, BIS, and others who are on public record promoting these agendas.
How long shall the rest of the galaxy wait for humanity to pull their heads out of their rears? Forever? According to my understanding, there are hundreds of other civilizations out there that would like to get on with their lives, but instead are caught up in events here on earth due to humanity's exceedingly persistent state of ignorance.
For that matter, what about the rest of us who no longer wish to live in this backwater state of affairs? What about our free will? We are humans, too.

But probably the most relevant question is: What do you suppose will actually result in a positive outcome here? If you take such great issue with these "tactics", what would you propose as an alternative? How can humanity get to that place where it is safe to release free energy technology?
Quote:Yes, it's typical wanderer stuff. There are many 'contactees'. However, certainly not many with quite that level of detail and involvement.
Right. And look what happened with Fore. He even talks about his preincarnative experience where his guardian/teacher/whateveryoucallit thought his life plan was a poor idea. And now here he is... ironically still being mistrustful of those who would watch over his experience here on earth when it didn't turn out so well... as these wiser and more intelligent beings suggested. Yet still... he styles himself as the "clever" one who saw through all their lies and deceit using the power of his skeptical mind. Nevermind that he admits these other beings are both wiser and more intelligent than he... they've got it all wrong.
Actually, the more I read of this the more I start to suspect that he is using skepticism as a literary technique, in order to preserve plausible deniability.