12-21-2011, 03:06 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-21-2011, 03:27 AM by Tyler Durden Maybe.)
Conifer16,
In regards to your question "How can any of us know what the speed of light is in other densities?"
The answer or explanation of this that has made the most sense to me is the information from Bashar. (I forget with Session(s), but if you're interested I can look it up)
Basic Scientific Definitions First:
Speed of Light in 3D: Approximately 186,282 miles per second or 299,792,458 per second. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_light
Planck Length: The Planck length is the length scale at which the structure of spacetime becomes dominated by quantum effects, and it would become impossible to determine the difference between two locations less than one Planck length apart. 16.162×10−36 meters or 636.30×10−36 inches (Basically it is the smallest distance possible in 3D space/time that still has "distance" in between two things before they become "one") see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_length & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_units
Planck Time: In physics, the Planck time, (tP), is the unit of time in the system of natural units known as Planck units. It is the time required for light to travel, in a vacuum, a distance of 1 Planck length. Theoretically, this is the smallest time measurement that will ever be possible, roughly 10−43 seconds. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_time
(Example from physics forum: if we could stretch time so that 1 Planck time unit became one second, 6.44044 × 10^-22 seconds would stretch to almost 380 Trillion years.)
Flicker Rate: Also know as frame rate, or how many vibrations/oscillations or possible achievable speed as measured in time. Like a movie frame rate of 24 frames a second, and a high speed camera (slow motion) frame rate of thousands of frames a second..
Note: While Basahr does not say specifically one way or the other, However it is my guess or theory that the Photon, or Particle Form of Light, as we experience it in 3D, may or may not exist in exactly the same way in 4D and above, and Light may be more in line with what we call the Wave Form of Light in higher densities. That is my guess, I cannot recall Bashar or the LOO providing the technical details of Photons/Particle Light Forms as it relates to other Desnities. Any information or thoughts on that would be welcome!)
The basic premise Bashar states is this:
Light Speed: This is actually more like the "Upper Boundary" of the Fabric of Space/Time in 3D. Or you can think of it as the highest Vibration/Oscillation/Speed possible in 3D. It's basically the cross over point at which any vibration above this would then be in 4D, if that makes sense. My GUESS is that Absolute Zero (or no vibration) is the Lower Bound in 3D, however he never says what the lower bound is.
Bashar states that the Plank Length and Plank Time represent/symbolize the 3D mathematical representations of the smallest "Weave" of the "Fabric" of Creation, including all Octaves & Densities. Creation in Totally, or the "Flicker Rate" of Creation. I did the math once, but it runs in the number of many, many Trillions or Quadrillions of "Flickers" or Vibrations/Oscillations per Second. In my words, I would say the rate of existence/creation/change/destruction of all of Creation.
So, each Octave and Each Density is made up of a very small number of these vibrations, even though all Octaves and Densities exist at once, just at different "Rates" or "Frequencies" much like how a Radio works, All Frequencies are there all the time, but you only receive the one you are tuned into to. Also, each Octave and each Density within that Octave has a Lower Boundary and Upper Boundary of "Flickers" or Vibration/Oscillations, and we call the Upper Boundary in our Density the speed of light.
So, in 4th Density, the Speed of Light is the Lower Boundary of their "Weave" or "Fabric" of Creation, and they have some Upper Boundary (or "4D speed of Light") that represents the vibrational boundary from 4D to 5D, and there's boundaries for 6D, 7D, the Next Octave, and on and on. I have no idea the mathematical calculations in order to determine the 4D Upper Boundary, I recall Bashar saying it was many thousands of times faster. So he would say the 4D "Speed" of Light is many thousands of times "Faster" than the 3D Speed of Light. But see this for an example: Just an example, not actual numbers or calculations:
3D: Lower Bound is Absolute Zero / No Vibration and Upper Bound is Speed of Light, which is lets say 1/1,000,000,000 (one millionth) of the Speed or Vibration of All of Creation.
4D: Lower Bound is the 3D Speed of Light, and the Upper Bound is whatever they call it, say "Their Speed of 4D Light", which is many thousands of times faster than ours, and which is lets say 1 / 100,000 of the Speed or Vibration of All of Creation.
5D: Lower Bound is the 4D Speed of Light, and the Upper Bound is whatever they call it, say "Their Speed of 5D Light", which is say millions of times faster than ours, and which is lets say 1 / 10,000 of the Speed or Vibration of All of Creation.
And so on, up all Densities in All Octaves. (just as an example)
So as you move up in Densities and Octaves you are experiencing or getting closer to the all the vibration of all of Creation, and the reason we only experience such as small part of creation (Our Octive and our Density) is that we are only experiencing or vibrating at a very very small percentage of all that there is and therefore only perceive that small percentage, even though all Octaves and Densities vibrate within the total vibration of Creation.
This is only because we "Perceive" such as small amount of the "Flickers" or Vibrations of all Creation, even though we can always expand this. Now perceive means both physically seeing with our eyes, but also perceiving with our Mind/Spirit. Our eyes can see about 30 frames a second. He says in 3D we can perceive about 60 flickers out of Trillions or Quadrillions of all of Creation. He says in 4D we can perceive about 300 - 1000 flickers, and so on and so on.
I have no idea if Bashar is right, however his explanation has always made sense to me on an intuitive level and resonates with me as correct. I'd be more than happy to answer any questions, critiques or comments . Thank you.
In regards to your question "How can any of us know what the speed of light is in other densities?"
The answer or explanation of this that has made the most sense to me is the information from Bashar. (I forget with Session(s), but if you're interested I can look it up)
Basic Scientific Definitions First:
Speed of Light in 3D: Approximately 186,282 miles per second or 299,792,458 per second. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_light
Planck Length: The Planck length is the length scale at which the structure of spacetime becomes dominated by quantum effects, and it would become impossible to determine the difference between two locations less than one Planck length apart. 16.162×10−36 meters or 636.30×10−36 inches (Basically it is the smallest distance possible in 3D space/time that still has "distance" in between two things before they become "one") see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_length & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_units
Planck Time: In physics, the Planck time, (tP), is the unit of time in the system of natural units known as Planck units. It is the time required for light to travel, in a vacuum, a distance of 1 Planck length. Theoretically, this is the smallest time measurement that will ever be possible, roughly 10−43 seconds. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_time
(Example from physics forum: if we could stretch time so that 1 Planck time unit became one second, 6.44044 × 10^-22 seconds would stretch to almost 380 Trillion years.)
Flicker Rate: Also know as frame rate, or how many vibrations/oscillations or possible achievable speed as measured in time. Like a movie frame rate of 24 frames a second, and a high speed camera (slow motion) frame rate of thousands of frames a second..
Note: While Basahr does not say specifically one way or the other, However it is my guess or theory that the Photon, or Particle Form of Light, as we experience it in 3D, may or may not exist in exactly the same way in 4D and above, and Light may be more in line with what we call the Wave Form of Light in higher densities. That is my guess, I cannot recall Bashar or the LOO providing the technical details of Photons/Particle Light Forms as it relates to other Desnities. Any information or thoughts on that would be welcome!)
The basic premise Bashar states is this:
Light Speed: This is actually more like the "Upper Boundary" of the Fabric of Space/Time in 3D. Or you can think of it as the highest Vibration/Oscillation/Speed possible in 3D. It's basically the cross over point at which any vibration above this would then be in 4D, if that makes sense. My GUESS is that Absolute Zero (or no vibration) is the Lower Bound in 3D, however he never says what the lower bound is.
Bashar states that the Plank Length and Plank Time represent/symbolize the 3D mathematical representations of the smallest "Weave" of the "Fabric" of Creation, including all Octaves & Densities. Creation in Totally, or the "Flicker Rate" of Creation. I did the math once, but it runs in the number of many, many Trillions or Quadrillions of "Flickers" or Vibrations/Oscillations per Second. In my words, I would say the rate of existence/creation/change/destruction of all of Creation.
So, each Octave and Each Density is made up of a very small number of these vibrations, even though all Octaves and Densities exist at once, just at different "Rates" or "Frequencies" much like how a Radio works, All Frequencies are there all the time, but you only receive the one you are tuned into to. Also, each Octave and each Density within that Octave has a Lower Boundary and Upper Boundary of "Flickers" or Vibration/Oscillations, and we call the Upper Boundary in our Density the speed of light.
So, in 4th Density, the Speed of Light is the Lower Boundary of their "Weave" or "Fabric" of Creation, and they have some Upper Boundary (or "4D speed of Light") that represents the vibrational boundary from 4D to 5D, and there's boundaries for 6D, 7D, the Next Octave, and on and on. I have no idea the mathematical calculations in order to determine the 4D Upper Boundary, I recall Bashar saying it was many thousands of times faster. So he would say the 4D "Speed" of Light is many thousands of times "Faster" than the 3D Speed of Light. But see this for an example: Just an example, not actual numbers or calculations:
3D: Lower Bound is Absolute Zero / No Vibration and Upper Bound is Speed of Light, which is lets say 1/1,000,000,000 (one millionth) of the Speed or Vibration of All of Creation.
4D: Lower Bound is the 3D Speed of Light, and the Upper Bound is whatever they call it, say "Their Speed of 4D Light", which is many thousands of times faster than ours, and which is lets say 1 / 100,000 of the Speed or Vibration of All of Creation.
5D: Lower Bound is the 4D Speed of Light, and the Upper Bound is whatever they call it, say "Their Speed of 5D Light", which is say millions of times faster than ours, and which is lets say 1 / 10,000 of the Speed or Vibration of All of Creation.
And so on, up all Densities in All Octaves. (just as an example)
So as you move up in Densities and Octaves you are experiencing or getting closer to the all the vibration of all of Creation, and the reason we only experience such as small part of creation (Our Octive and our Density) is that we are only experiencing or vibrating at a very very small percentage of all that there is and therefore only perceive that small percentage, even though all Octaves and Densities vibrate within the total vibration of Creation.
This is only because we "Perceive" such as small amount of the "Flickers" or Vibrations of all Creation, even though we can always expand this. Now perceive means both physically seeing with our eyes, but also perceiving with our Mind/Spirit. Our eyes can see about 30 frames a second. He says in 3D we can perceive about 60 flickers out of Trillions or Quadrillions of all of Creation. He says in 4D we can perceive about 300 - 1000 flickers, and so on and so on.
I have no idea if Bashar is right, however his explanation has always made sense to me on an intuitive level and resonates with me as correct. I'd be more than happy to answer any questions, critiques or comments . Thank you.