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    01-01-2012, 07:39 PM
    (01-01-2012, 04:48 PM)ShinAr Wrote: I am curious why you choose to call the being you encountered Michael. You state that you were experiencing archangels, and yet you follow up by stating that you have no idea what an angel is.

    Shamans typically try to reveal people to their guides and totems, which may then take them on journeys of information gathering and revelation. So I ask you what it is that caused you to think you were in the presence of archangels, or more specifically, Michael?
    It wasn't actually my idea to call them. But I was curious as to their nature and had agreed with the shaman to try it, at her suggestion after some discussion of what a guides and angels were. Was sort of a joint experience.

    (01-01-2012, 04:48 PM)ShinAr Wrote: Experiencing an angel emerging from a vortex would be a definite representation of the Goddess emerging from the Spiral of creation. And as I briefly touched upon in an earlier post, the archangel Michael is known throughout the ages as the Goddess. It is only through the manipulation of Christianity that the archangel was redefined.
    When I described my somewhat vague impression of 'Michael', the shaman seemed to have thought my depiction was of remarkable importance. While I understand general symbology and when I 'journey' or use active imagination, I naturally work with the symbols (and they work on me), I still feel I have much to learn about these concepts you are describing. In most cases, the shaman could feel and see (or later recognize) exactly what I was feeling and seeing and would simply name it in order to help me understand.

    During a journeying session, I have also experienced what I would call 'goddess energy' or 'divine feminine' in the form of nature or a creative-mother energy I guess - this 'power' is somewhat difficult to relate. Apparently, (sharing the experience) the shaman also felt that was a profound thing.

    (01-01-2012, 04:48 PM)ShinAr Wrote: In ancient teachings the archangels were sent forth by the Serpent Goddess to assist her in creating the universe. They have also been acknowledged as the Cosmic Twins, the androgynous aspects of the Goddess, and as the Goddess herself. Much of the ancient teaching reflects many cultures and symbolism that can, to the untrained eye seem to be contradictory and confusing, but when one delves into it, it begins to add up and all falls easily into place, answering many questions with great logic. There are many, 'Oh yeah, now I get it" moments when studying this information thoroughly.

    For you to experience the archangel Michael coming directly out of the vortex is, by all accounts staggering, given the fact that you admit to knowing nothing of what I have just revealed here, and that most would not be inclined to associate the angel with the vortex.
    To me that is not staggering, but some of the work we did (and other things I have experience in this life) was indeed staggering. For example, in one session (with two shaman) I was 'miraculously' healed, which was a profound experience. (That work is now depicted in a book apparently.) And we 'miraculously' healed another. For some reason, when I am around highly 'polarized' people, such as that shaman, I myself will 'activate' and 'raise vibration'. We also did use crystals and did do preliminary work to 'raise vibration'. What I find funny is how much we seem to be able to do, and with such ease, with what seems like very little understanding.

    (01-01-2012, 04:48 PM)ShinAr Wrote: I believe you had a profound meeting, and by any chance did it seem like he/she was offering that sword to you? At first sight it might appear that the sword was threatening, but that sword represents the ancient symbol of the Tree of Life. It is the basis of the Caduceus symbol. It represents the path and connection to the Divine. Most higher beings would assume that if one had the power to summon them, that they would usually also recognize the symbol and offering of the sword.
    It was not threatening in the least. The experience wasn't like an imposition. I think what I saw reflected my curiosity and the purpose was more to show 'this is possible'. The imagry was somewhat ambiguous, so much so that I could not tell whether or not the sword was handled in a way that suggested offering. I was sort of relating the elements which 'gestalted' into this image.

    (01-01-2012, 04:48 PM)ShinAr Wrote: Temperature dropping is not indicative of negative energy. It is simply the difference between the temperature between the two fields of consciousness as they come together. The Mandorle will not be the temperature of one or the other circles, but will be a blend of the two, just as a room between two rooms will fill with the temperature of each room. Often the temperature of other realms is much lower than those we are used to experiencing. Had you been in a cold climate you may have actually experienced an increase in temperature. But then again who knows where a field might originate from?
    That explanation does make sense, at least intuitively.

    On the subject, in the 'Ra Material', one of the Q/A's is as follows:
    Quote:62.21 Questioner: When the Orion entity who waits us seeking the opportunity to attack is with us here can you describe his method of coming here, what he looks like, and what his signs are? I know that this isn’t too important, but it might give me a little insight into what we are talking about.

    Ra: I am Ra. Fifth-density entities are very light beings although they do have the type of physical vehicle which you understand. Fifth-density entities are very fair to look upon in your standard of beauty.

    The thought is what is sent for a fifth-density entity is likely to have mastered this technique or discipline. There is little or no means of perceiving such an entity, for unlike fourth-density negative entities the fifth-density entity walks with light feet.

    This instrument was aware of extreme coldness in the past diurnal cycle and spent much more time than your normal attitudes would imagine to be appropriate in what seemed to each of you an extremely warm climate. This was not perceived by the instrument, but the drop in subjective temperature is a sign of presence of a negative or nonpositive or draining entity.

    This instrument did mention a feeling of discomfort but was nourished by this group and was able to dismiss it. Had it not been for a random mishap, all would have been well, for you have learned to live in love and light and do not neglect to remember the One Infinite Creator.

    (01-01-2012, 04:48 PM)ShinAr Wrote: What did you mean by 'familiar energies' with regard to the taller being? Michael is usually always associated with a twin. The taller being you described as Metatron is also curious. You say you have no idea what an angel is and yet you know about Metatron.
    That again, was at the suggestion of the shaman who these beings serve as guides I guess. Some days I have more access to what I would consider a higher nature, or state of being. In that state of self-congruency as it were, there is a great deal of subtle or tacit profundity which I am calling 'familiar energies' or 'that which is'.

    By myself, have not attempted to contact guides directly - from my perspective, there is already a lot of useful (guiding) information, 'built in', which I am simply ignoring, and I'd rather be responsible for understanding it. In dreams, contact with 'guides' seems to happen often though. And just before waking up there may be some suggestion to ponder, from what seems to be a guide.

    (01-01-2012, 04:48 PM)ShinAr Wrote: So I am thinking your roots are probably more in Judaism than in Christianity. Metatron is usually associated with the Kabbalists and the geometric aspects of the pentagram, both of which are heavily associated with occultism. However the pentagram has far deeper meanings and the true Kabbalist knows this. The pentagram relates to the Tree of Life, as does most religious symbols. The Tree of Life, of course, symbolizing the ancient aspect of the spine of man being the conduit by which the Goddess in each of us once awakened travels to become our higher being.
    The tree is an important symbol for me. I have not studied the Kabbala, but am (slowly) learning tarot.

    (01-01-2012, 04:48 PM)ShinAr Wrote: So once again we have the sword of Michael, the conduit, and the Metatron relation to the Tree of Life, the conduit, each attempting to show you the way to your higher being. This no coincidence my friend. It is indeed extremely profound. Had you understood these things at the time you would have made a bee line for that vortex for all you were worth. Few have had that opportunity to cross over.
    I can appreciate your understanding of symbolism and the thought behind your words. I can tell you've done a lot of work, and I'm glad there are people such as yourself that are able to recognize that reality (if that makes sense). Thanks for sharing your insights. There does seem to be much to learn with regards to these primordial, archetypal energies. What is your understanding 'cross over'?

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    Who is it that seeks me? - by Shin'Ar - 12-31-2011, 02:38 AM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by Parsons - 12-31-2011, 03:56 AM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by Unbound - 12-31-2011, 04:34 AM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by Shin'Ar - 12-31-2011, 08:53 AM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by zenmaster - 12-31-2011, 12:25 PM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by Shin'Ar - 12-31-2011, 04:05 PM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by zenmaster - 12-31-2011, 05:54 PM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by Parsons - 12-31-2011, 02:28 PM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by Unbound - 12-31-2011, 06:01 PM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by zenmaster - 12-31-2011, 07:44 PM
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    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by AnthroHeart - 12-31-2011, 08:11 PM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by JustLikeYou - 12-31-2011, 08:19 PM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by Shin'Ar - 12-31-2011, 09:04 PM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by AnthroHeart - 12-31-2011, 09:31 PM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by Shin'Ar - 12-31-2011, 10:57 PM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by Sagittarius - 01-01-2012, 02:14 AM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by Shin'Ar - 01-01-2012, 11:54 AM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by zenmaster - 01-01-2012, 03:12 PM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by Shin'Ar - 01-01-2012, 04:48 PM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by zenmaster - 01-01-2012, 07:39 PM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by Shin'Ar - 01-01-2012, 08:06 PM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by zenmaster - 01-01-2012, 08:13 PM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by Shin'Ar - 01-01-2012, 08:18 PM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by Unbound - 01-01-2012, 08:42 PM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by GrandKitaro777 - 01-01-2012, 09:07 PM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by Sagittarius - 01-02-2012, 03:52 AM
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    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by Unbound - 01-02-2012, 05:00 AM
    RE: Who is it that seeks me? - by Shin'Ar - 01-02-2012, 10:49 AM
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