Who is it that seeks me?

[Oldern]

My perception of this whole "issue" or "debate" (mind me: I have only seen the last few pages in the David W. thread, but I am not interested in him at all) is very simple. On one hand, yes, Shin'Ar, you cannot just preach without changing by yourself. But then: in the few months while I have been here, every now and then some new poster comes who uses a very heavy language (with a lot of keywords, stuff like what you do: Sacred Eye, Mandorle, Sanctity, etc....), and seems very adamant and specific when it comes to his beliefs.
Sometimes - or usually - there is trouble. This almost "too specific" view is by nature not compatible with a lighter, open discussion like what "we" have here - and for the same reason that YOU just described.

"There will always be those who determine to push their agenda without the obligation of accepting criticism. For two fields to share information successfully the interaction must be both receptive as well as transmitting."

This goes both ways, I suppose. I agree with you when you say that no matter what a teacher fails to DO, if his words are true, we should just follow it. Yes, that is okay. But criticizing "others" for criticizing others? That is a magic trap of the Ego. That is 22 catch. You either accept the teacher's weakness AND the student's, or you accept none. And we are designed to have failings just as the "teacher" is designed to.

Maybe I am seeing this because it is one of my main goals in this incarnations. I used to be -or still is - SOOOO judgemental. Everything got back to me. Everything. Now, every time my mind is trying to play THAT game again, I am there. And I am - sometimes gently, sometimes not so much - telling "it": No, you should stop. THOSE people that you are trying to judge are living their own reality. You do your own. There is no point trying to expect them to behave like you would, right?

I just hope that the mind learns sooner or later. But all I want to tell you is this: you seem to be a good person. Loosen up a bit and do not take anything that might be seen as "directed against you" "them looking out for your flaws, monitoring you" personally. Think outside the box, because I can almost guarantee you that no one is out here on Bring4th trying to catch you. If you want that reality however, you can create it for yourself. *silently thanks Bashar for that powerful image*