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    01-06-2012, 11:02 PM (This post was last modified: 01-06-2012, 11:45 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
    (01-06-2012, 09:39 PM)Snowflower Wrote: Thank you for your response, Tenet. I have read through your posts.

    You're welcome, and I am grateful that my posts have given you food for thought. Sometimes I feel as if I am only writing these to myself... well I suppose in a sense I am! Wink

    -Snowflower Wrote:I'm interested in your reference to the Abrahamic Religions as limited to Judeo/Christian/Moslem. Also, I realized while reading your posts that I had forgotten to list Zoroastrianism in my list of previous manifestations. But, about the Abrahamic line, it might be of interest to you to note that both Hindus and Buddhists claim ancestry to Abraham, through Katurah his third wife who was banished into India.

    According to my limited and fallible understanding, the idea that Hindus and Buddhists (as well as those practicing Shinto) are descended from Abraham and his second wife, Keturah, is unique to the philosophy conceived by Yakov Leib HaKohain and promulgated by the Dönmeh West organization. That Bahá'u'lláh is also said to have been born of this lineage, I would imagine that your previous adherence to the Bahá'í faith offers an explanation for when and where you were exposed to this idea.

    Of course, nobody really knows how it all went down, including myself. However, I don't think that the majority of Hindus and Buddhists would claim to be a descendant of Abraham... I suspect that is a minority view. Though I would point out there is considerable evidence to believe that Abraham was from India, there having been known as Brahma. I wouldn't be surprised at all to find out that there are groups of Indians and Asians who are descended from Abraham.

    According to my personal research and current belief- Zoroastrianism, along with Hinduism, may have emerged more toward the dawn of the Arian Age as the world's first truly monistic religions among the Indo-Iranian peoples living in the Caucasus. Whereas, the monotheistic religions didn't emerge until the latter part of the Age, roughly 800 - 500 BCE.

    Monism is the belief that all beings and things are part of God. This is in contrast to monotheism, which is the belief in one god above all the rest ala the First Commandment as given by Yahweh to Abraham. This is why I refer to the three main monotheistic religions as Abrahamic. My apologies if I didn't include the Ba'hai... I am afraid my understanding of the Ba'hai faith is extremely limited. I don't know how to categorize it properly.

    Now that being said, there is much overlap in religions, and there are monistic strains of philosophy that run through the monotheistic religions. Some examples: Chasidic Jews, the Sufis, the Sikhs, Soto Zen, the Gnostic Christians.

    There is also a curious dynamic that went on between Zoroastrianism and Hinduism that may interest you. Under the Zoroastrian system, all of the nonphysical beings were divided into two camps: the ahuras (who followed the true Creator Ahura Mazda), and the daevas (who followed the false demiurge Ahriman). As this concept made its way down the Indian peninsula there was a flip-flop of deities which occurred as it was incorporated into Hinduism. According to the Hindus, the devas are the "good spirits" while the asuras are the "evil ones".

    I would point out here that my intention with all of this babble isn't to simply give a monologue, or to prove the "rightness" of my beliefs. Rather, I am of the mind that in comparing and contrasting our knowledge and beliefs- while keeping an open mind to what the other is saying- can help us both to achieve new insights and understandings!

    Snowflower Wrote:I've been learning a great deal this past autumn about psychopaths and sociopaths. It sounds to me like these are the people you're describing. And, you put it well, that we are being held hostage to their behavior. In fact, I'll go further to suggest that psychopaths are the result of interbreeding with a reptilian race that is currently pretty much in charge of this planet. The 4-5% of humans that are psychopathic, truly canNOT feel remorse for harm done or empathy for the pain of others. It isn't just that they choose not to - they cannot. They lack the neural pathways in the brain to allow this thought pattern. I suspect this lack of remorse or empathy is indicative of beings that have chosen negative density worlds, and is part of their attempt to turn this world toward negative density. But, I'm still only in Book One of the Ra Material, so I might find this idea either completely supported or totally discredited.

    It's a brain-buster, no doubt about it! I agree there appears to be some credible evidence that one or several subgroups of humans were genetically and socially manipulated toward bellicosity. Ra says as much... but also take a look at this quote here:

    24.12 Wrote:Questioner: Could you tell me why the Orion group had to leave after what figures to be a six hundred year period?

    Ra: I am Ra. Although the impression that they had given to those who called them was that these entities were an elite group, that which you know as “Diaspora” occurred, causing much dispersion of these peoples so that they became an humbler and more honorable breed, less bellicose and more aware of the loving-kindness of the One Creator.

    The creation about them tended towards being somewhat bellicose, somewhat oriented towards the enslavement of others, but they themselves, the target of the Orion group by means of their genetic superiority/weakness, became what you may call the underdogs, thereby letting the feelings of gratitude for their neighbors, their family, and their One Creator begin to heal the feelings of elitism which led to the distortions of power over others which had caused their own bellicosity.

    While it should go without saying, it is worth mentioning that this "Diaspora" has resulted in a thorough mixing of these bellicose genes among those of all breeds and races.

    I would also speculate here that I am not entirely sure that psychopaths are totally beyond assistance and recovery. Of course, the first steps would be to ask for, and accept, that assistance which can be a real stumbling block for psychopaths.

    I had a close friend who became psychopathic. I suppose it would be wiser to refrain from applying that label to people, however it has been almost nine years since he had a drug- and alcohol-induced mental breakdown which included paranoid delusions that I was spearheading a conspiracy amongst our mutual friends to have him committed to a mental institution. Apparently, he still believes it to this day. Last I heard, he had claimed that I put an implant in his head!

    Also, I just came across this latest Matthew's Message. Some interesting thoughts therein:

    Quote:8. It is Earth’s destiny to leave third density when a universal cycle opens an astral window at the end of this year, and by then no one with a dark mind and heart will be left on the planet. That may seem unduly harsh, as if some arbitrary judgment process simply will eliminate them, and that is not so. There are persons who have amassed fortunes dishonestly, achieved power ruthlessly, and consistently have refused the light constantly available to them, and both their souls and their bodies will “pay the price,” you could say.

    9. It is the light within a body that transforms its carbon-based cellular structure into the crystalline form that enables the body to live in the high vibrations of energy planes beyond third density. In antiquity, strong civilizations with darkness at the core deliberately altered the DNA of weaker civilizations to reduce its people’s capacity for intelligence and spiritual awareness. That affected their bodies as well—crystalline cells degraded into the carbon structure that can be, and was, programmed with vulnerability to all forms of illness and a much shorter life span than in eras long, long ago in your concept of time.

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    Abrahamic Religions - by Snowflower - 01-06-2012, 11:19 AM
    RE: Abrahamic Religions - by Tenet Nosce - 01-06-2012, 12:08 PM
    RE: Abrahamic Religions - by Snowflower - 01-06-2012, 09:39 PM
    RE: Abrahamic Religions - by Tenet Nosce - 01-06-2012, 11:02 PM
    RE: Abrahamic Religions - by Snowflower - 01-07-2012, 01:38 PM
    RE: Abrahamic Religions - by Tenet Nosce - 01-07-2012, 03:11 PM
    RE: Abrahamic Religions - by Snowflower - 01-07-2012, 06:47 PM
    RE: Abrahamic Religions - by Ankh - 01-13-2012, 08:38 AM

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