In regards to eating meat

[Plenum]

Hi Diana! for the sake of discussion, we'll try to leave the egos at the door because this can be a very touchy subject. I think we have both made clear decisions as to our personal diets, but the general discussion can go beyond just 2 individuals

for a starting point, let us leave human beings out of the picture entirely, and just look at how the animal and vegetable kingdoms interact by themselves.

1) there are plants

2) there are animals that eat plants

3) there are animals that eat animals that ate the plants

now, from what you wrote above - " that eating at all where life is taken, and particularly the eating of animals, because of the suffering involved and at the least, the fear of death, that this is an STS event."

would this apply to carnivores in the animal kingdom? (lions, sharks, polar bears?). From what I understand of Ra, one cannot have STS/STO without at least reaching 3rd density and gaining a small measure of free will. The majority of animals don't have a choice as what they eat; they can only digest what they are built to digest (take a cow for example).

so when a lion hunts down and kills its prey, it would be unduly harsh to place that event in a karmic framework.

human beings are an entirely different matter because we can CHOOSE.

but do you agree on this analysis for the animal kingdom?

ie a lion is not STS in its eating because that is just what it is.