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    Thread: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES


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    12-07-2009, 02:27 PM
    (12-05-2009, 06:30 AM)transiten Wrote: I'm curious to know if anyone here has visited Jane Burgermeisters website www.theflucase.com ? I would truly appreciate if someone opposed to conspiraytheories did and told me what you think.

    Hi transiten,

    To be clear, I am not actually someone opposed to conspiracy theories. I believe that they are both real and imagined. I suspect that there are a few that are real (mostly still hidden from us) and many, many more that are apparent to us but were generated in order to create fear and anxiety and to distract us from the real shenanigans going on.

    It is my humble opinion that Ms. Burgermeister falls into the latter camp. I spent an hour or so at her website and I came away feeling fairly disgusted with her. Let's look at a few of her assertions:

    - First, Ms. Burgermeister confuses the swine flu (H1N1) with the avian flu (H5N1). She claims that Baxter contaminated the ordinary flu vaccine with swine flu in Feb 2009. Unfortunately, the first confirmed Case of the Swine flu didn't occur until mid March 2009. If she could prove this H1N1 assertion, it would indeed prove a conspiracy, but she seems much more interested in claiming problems than proving them.

    - Later in the article, she shifts from H1N1 over to the H5N1 (which the avian flu... the last big pandemic scare we've had going for about 5 years). Unfortunately, there is yet to have evolved a sufficiently virulent stand of H5N1 to warrant any vaccination development. So this assertion is really suspect.

    - She also implies that Baxter decided to CREATE a deadly avian flu by mixing H5N1 with the latest stain for seasonal flu (H3N2) . She asserts, with absolutely no scientific basis or proof, that by mixing H5N1 with H3N2, they created a deadly virus that would then be administered as though it were a beneficial vaccine, and if it weren't for some alert lab technician in the Czech republic, this would have been loosed on an unsuspecting world. Big on claims, very small on facts to back them up.

    - Ms. Burgermeister makes a big deal about BSL 3 handling is required to manufacture flu vaccines. This is actually wrong. Flu vaccines require only BSL 2 handling, as is the case for the current swine flu vaccine. Even people handling live virus or tissue possibly contaminated with it only need BSL 2.

    - Ms. Burgermeister has a degree in English. These are not the normal credentials of someone breaking such a significant biotechnical plot.

    - Ms. Burgermeister learned of the issue from a newspaper. That's what she said. She read it in a newspaper and went down and filed criminal charges because the authorities were ignoring it. Seems more likely that they were ignoring it because it wasn't an issue.

    I then spent some time listening to how the WHO would to take control of the US and all major militaries starting around October 2009, and that I would be forced to take this Swine flu vaccine by the new world government which was founded when the UN and WHO got together and exercised their rights to take over all the world government's and military's after they declared a Stage 6 pandemic. Supposedly, by taking the vaccine, I will either be microchipped or murdered, I could never tell which one it was. Perhaps it's just that I'll be poisoned (or possibly infected), and if that doesn't kill me, then I'll have already been microchipped so they can easily track me and put me in a concentration camp. And I guess if it does kill me, then the microchip will make it easy for them to find my body so they can dispose of it in a mass grave.

    Hmmmmm. Well, it's now December 7 and I haven't noticed any UN troops in my neighborhood demanding that I get vaccinated. I also have seen no mass graves or concentration camps, but they are probably hidden from me.

    Looking outside, it's actually a pretty nice day. The swine flu has proven to be a non-event (yes, it's out there, yes it's a flu, no it's not any more likely to kill you than the seasonal flu unless you have certain other complicating conditions). Ho-hum.

    As for the US troops somehow suddenly following orders given by the UN? I've gotta say that one really has me laughing. I don't know what Europe is like, but Texas is full of a bunch of beer drinking, gun toting, red necks that would love nothing more than an excuse to shoot up the town and any UN troops that come around demanding that we get vaccinated.... Oh and a lot of those gun toters are IN the armed forces just to be able to protect their friends and family against any such situation.

    The fact that she's trying to raise money for her cause on the same web site, sets off other warning bells for me. Fortunately, she hasn't found many suckers willing to contribute. By the way, if she's running this campaign out of Europe and trying to prosecute Baxter in European court, why is she raising money on US $? Euros are stronger and less likely to lose value over the short term.

    I could go on, but I do have a day job. The bottom line to me, is that Ms. Burgermeister is out there trying to create fear and uncertainty around a topic that already causes stress in people. She is playing to your fear of the Illuminati and the NWO and found a way to tie them in with your fear of Swine / Avian Flu (I do wish she would make up her mind).

    Just my 2 cents, but hey, you asked.

    Love and Light to all the conspirators out there. You'll get no fear or anger from me. I'm not sure if disgust works the same as fear and anger...Come to think of it, it probably does, so it looks like still have some work to do accepting Ms Burgermeister. Wow, they really are good at manipulating us, aren't they!

    3D Sunset

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    the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by xlsander - 07-13-2009, 05:53 AM
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    RE: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by cosmoethicism - 10-04-2010, 11:01 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by @ndy - 10-05-2010, 04:04 AM
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