12-07-2009, 02:43 PM
Yes Monica, they question it... Now I appreciate that we should question everything. But after we've questioned it we should look for a real answer.
When I questioned it I only had to reach out to pubmed to dig up article upon article proving that it works.
You don't actually need science to show it works: Measles practically vanishing from the united states is a pretty clear example. Polio and smallpox not actually being present in the west while still ravaging certain parts of the third world is also a clear example.... I'd certainly like to hear any alternative explanations you might have. I can find none.
I appreciate thinking outside the box, doubting what is taken for granted or speaking against the status quo. You know I love this mentality... However I love discernment more and in this particular case I cannot convince myself that vaccines do not work. The evidence to the contrary is too overwhelming to suggest "they" are making it seem this way. I don't believe they have the power to influence the research of every scholar without me knowing about it. I'm trained as a scholar and I see their influence and I know how that world works having been a part of it and still checking up on them regularly.
1. Vaccines work in the case of life threatening illnesses.. The history, prevalence and response to vaccines of polio and smallpox are clear evidence of this.
2. In some cases there is no preventive modality. The alternative method of prevention for small pox is exposure to cow pox. Which is essentially the same or even more dangerous than vaccination. (Being a live virus) The prevention for polio has no alternatives as far as I understand.
If we would stop vaccinating, then small pox and polio would ravage the west and take thousands of casualties each year. If we don't stop vaccinating, the vaccine will take a handful of casualties each year. We're doing a very clear experiment in the world today... Those rich enough to vaccinate their kids don't know anyone who ever had the disease but they do know those who had adverse reactions to the vaccine and even then mostly only from the news. Those who are too poor to vaccinate see the disease on a regular basis.
I understand why you would doubt the claims of the likes of WHO and the CDC... They clearly are lying to us. And not just in this vaccine business. I could give you more. High blood pressure and diabetes are also abused on a daily basis. And on the psychology front depression and ADHD are popular money cows.
Hey you got me started. It turns out there are about 10 times more mexican flu cases in england than the rest of the european continent... Difference in food or health care? Or are they lying? The US is also hit comparatively hard... Again the same question pops up. Lies? or is this a picky virus that prefers English speakers? My current working hypothesis is that they are lies for the sake of marketing. To get to our money.
But even if you doubt the CDC and WHO, why would you doubt the research that was done 200 years ago long before these groups actually came into existence?
Discernment is required, but this does not just take the form of skepticism towards the powers that be. Sometimes we need to be skeptical of the conspiracy theorists. Right now they're getting a lot of attention, justly so, but we should not believe their every claim. My default position is to believe a scientist unless a good body of evidence is provided.
When I questioned it I only had to reach out to pubmed to dig up article upon article proving that it works.
You don't actually need science to show it works: Measles practically vanishing from the united states is a pretty clear example. Polio and smallpox not actually being present in the west while still ravaging certain parts of the third world is also a clear example.... I'd certainly like to hear any alternative explanations you might have. I can find none.
I appreciate thinking outside the box, doubting what is taken for granted or speaking against the status quo. You know I love this mentality... However I love discernment more and in this particular case I cannot convince myself that vaccines do not work. The evidence to the contrary is too overwhelming to suggest "they" are making it seem this way. I don't believe they have the power to influence the research of every scholar without me knowing about it. I'm trained as a scholar and I see their influence and I know how that world works having been a part of it and still checking up on them regularly.
1. Vaccines work in the case of life threatening illnesses.. The history, prevalence and response to vaccines of polio and smallpox are clear evidence of this.
2. In some cases there is no preventive modality. The alternative method of prevention for small pox is exposure to cow pox. Which is essentially the same or even more dangerous than vaccination. (Being a live virus) The prevention for polio has no alternatives as far as I understand.
If we would stop vaccinating, then small pox and polio would ravage the west and take thousands of casualties each year. If we don't stop vaccinating, the vaccine will take a handful of casualties each year. We're doing a very clear experiment in the world today... Those rich enough to vaccinate their kids don't know anyone who ever had the disease but they do know those who had adverse reactions to the vaccine and even then mostly only from the news. Those who are too poor to vaccinate see the disease on a regular basis.
I understand why you would doubt the claims of the likes of WHO and the CDC... They clearly are lying to us. And not just in this vaccine business. I could give you more. High blood pressure and diabetes are also abused on a daily basis. And on the psychology front depression and ADHD are popular money cows.
Hey you got me started. It turns out there are about 10 times more mexican flu cases in england than the rest of the european continent... Difference in food or health care? Or are they lying? The US is also hit comparatively hard... Again the same question pops up. Lies? or is this a picky virus that prefers English speakers? My current working hypothesis is that they are lies for the sake of marketing. To get to our money.
But even if you doubt the CDC and WHO, why would you doubt the research that was done 200 years ago long before these groups actually came into existence?
Discernment is required, but this does not just take the form of skepticism towards the powers that be. Sometimes we need to be skeptical of the conspiracy theorists. Right now they're getting a lot of attention, justly so, but we should not believe their every claim. My default position is to believe a scientist unless a good body of evidence is provided.