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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material is the LOGOS the Furthest Back you can go?

    Thread: is the LOGOS the Furthest Back you can go?


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    03-23-2012, 06:06 PM
    13.5 Questioner: Thank you. Can you tell me of the first known thing in the creation?

    Ra: I am Ra. The first known thing in the creation is infinity. The infinity is creation.

    13.6 Questioner: From this infinity then must come what we experience as creation. What was the next step or the next evolvement?

    Ra: I am Ra. Infinity became aware. This was the next step.

    13.7 Questioner: After this, what came next?

    Ra: I am Ra. Awareness led to the focus of infinity into infinite energy. You have called this by various vibrational sound complexes, the most common to your ears being “Logos” or “Love.” The Creator is the focusing of infinity as an aware or conscious principle called by us as closely as we can create understanding/learning in your language, intelligent infinity.


    So:

    0. There is the Infinite. Infinity = Unity, per Ra, and per the definitions of the two words.
    1. Infinity became aware. This is also known as free will.
    2. Intelligent Infinity focused into Intelligent Energy. This is known as the Logos.
    3. The Logos emits Light. This is the known Creation.

    Therefore, to go back further than the Logos is to go back to awareness without Creation or to go back to pure unity without distortion. The Logos is also known as the "Creative Principle".

    Free will (also known as awareness) is the space in which the Logos exists. Free will/awareness is also identical to finitude. Thus, the first concept which emerged from the formless unity/infinity is its opposite: many/finite. It is only in becoming finite that Infinite Unity can become many. Thus, in order for the One to be free, it must take on limitation. The freedom of the One is the freedom to explore any mode of limitation. Because the One is the only thing, it is obviously autonomous. Normally, we think that autonomy is the essence of freedom, but autonomy requires limitation in order to be free. There must be a space to explore if an autonomous being is to explore. The limitation taken on by the Infinite sets the precedent for Creatorhood: to be a Creator is to become what you are not: to limit that which is infinite.

    Therefore, the first concept is manyness/finitude. The second concept is the decision to explore this manyness/finitude. The first concept is the possibility for Creating. The second concept is the Creative Principle itself, also known as the Logos. This is a small point, but it is relevant to the topic.

    This description seems to be at variance to Shin'Ar's description of the Logos as the first thought, but I think the two can be synthesized. Let us consider that a Word must have a speaker. The Infinity does not speak. Therefore, there are two things necessary in order for there two be a Word: the first thing to emerge from the Infinite is the speaker (that which is aware), and and the second thing is the first thought of this speaker: the Word. Shin'Ar I do not mean to do violence to your description; I am only attempting to synthesize your version with Ra's.
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    is the LOGOS the Furthest Back you can go? - by Plenum - 03-23-2012, 09:32 AM
    RE: is the LOGOS the Furthest Back you can go? - by Bring4th_Austin - 03-23-2012, 11:54 AM
    RE: is the LOGOS the Furthest Back you can go? - by Shin'Ar - 03-23-2012, 01:17 PM
    RE: is the LOGOS the Furthest Back you can go? - by Unbound - 03-23-2012, 01:45 PM
    RE: is the LOGOS the Furthest Back you can go? - by drifting pages - 03-23-2012, 03:13 PM
    RE: is the LOGOS the Furthest Back you can go? - by JustLikeYou - 03-23-2012, 06:06 PM
    RE: is the LOGOS the Furthest Back you can go? - by Oldern - 03-23-2012, 06:48 PM
    RE: is the LOGOS the Furthest Back you can go? - by Unbound - 03-23-2012, 06:52 PM
    RE: is the LOGOS the Furthest Back you can go? - by Oceania - 03-23-2012, 07:42 PM
    RE: is the LOGOS the Furthest Back you can go? - by Unbound - 03-23-2012, 07:49 PM
    RE: is the LOGOS the Furthest Back you can go? - by Oceania - 03-24-2012, 07:14 PM
    RE: is the LOGOS the Furthest Back you can go? - by AnthroHeart - 05-09-2014, 06:41 PM
    RE: is the LOGOS the Furthest Back you can go? - by Sagittarius - 05-09-2014, 07:12 PM
    RE: is the LOGOS the Furthest Back you can go? - by ChickenInSpace - 05-10-2014, 06:37 AM

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