Is the Self an Other-Self?

[Diana]

Forgiveness of other-self is forgiveness of self. An understanding of this insists upon full forgiveness upon the conscious level of self and other-self, for they are one. A full forgiveness is thus impossible without the inclusion of self.

To me it means following: a) you can either realize that the self is one with another self, thus it is enough to forgive one of these entities. b) this realization may or may not occur automatically, or by itself, once you, in this case, find full forgiveness for either of these entities. c) realization of oneness may not occur on conscious level, but understanding is still available in the unconscious mind, since the experience was made that the full forgiveness of another self included the self.

Very good points. And I will add, that when I have been able to forgive myself it naturally followed that I had forgiven, with no conscious volition, the others' involved.

It would follow, according to this idea, that one would apply equal service to self as to service to other-selves, or, the same amount of consideration for self as for other-selves.

Ultimately yes, but this is perhaps not realized until sixth density, in its fullness? And needs to be explored through fourth and fifth.

It is certainly a challenge in 3D. :-/

Oh yeah... This what it seems to me like right now... I stand and look at that choice and there is like a vision inside of me, that when you have made the choice, there will be no more self and your goals and desires will be spend in each moment thinking about others. Now it is said in the material that only 51% is required, but it is also said that these 51% are as hard to attain as 95% service to self. And also that this path is straight and narrow, at which end there is a gateway to graduating. =)

Those few times when I happened to attain high polarization and feel what I would call fourth dimensional vibration, I experienced being high on being in service to others. That was the whole self gratification as you called it. There was an understanding that the goals and desires of the self were no longer there. All that was important was the service to the Creator in all beings, and one became unconcerned with the details.

I know what you're talking about. There are some very transcendent times when one is completely "in the flow."

There is Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. The premise is that the needs at the bottom must be met before moving up to attend to the needs above (ie. if you are hungry, it is difficult to concentrate on self-esteem).

However, I have been able to attain an attitude of "being of service" apart from where I was at in the hierarchy, but these times were very transient.