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    12-15-2009, 04:01 PM (This post was last modified: 12-15-2009, 04:52 PM by Monica.)
    (12-15-2009, 03:12 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: Within our 3D existence, it is not readily apparent why we chose to become ill. It could have been to learn a pre-programmed lesson, due to our living out of line with our intended life plan, as a reaction to a random catalyst that caught us at an imbalanced state to respond to it, or even our self chose method of exiting this life.

    I agree that, ultimately, everything that happens to us is a catalyst. I consider that a given. Within that framework, though, there is much that we can do.

    (12-15-2009, 03:12 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: The actions that we should take to respond to the disease could include any number of allopathic, homeopathic, spiritual, natural or other approaches. The net effect of any of these is that we get better if we are supposed to. It is distinctly possible that better diet or personal habits on our part might have allowed us to avoid the disease entirely. Such may the lesson the disease is offering us.

    Right! So, if the lesson (in some cases) is to learn how to have a healthier lifestyle, and that in turn produces positive results (better health for us, less cruelty to animals, less pollution on the planet from chemical farming, less $$ in the pockets of corrupt corportations, the ability to help others in similar situations, thus resulting in acts of compassion and service, etc.), then wouldn't it be reasonable that, for some, seeking a healthier diet and lifestyle might include avoiding toxic substances?

    Please clarify if I am misinterpreting your words, but I get the impression you are saying that learning about toxic substances is somehow 'playing the victim.' This is the part I'm confused about. I agree that many people do have a victim mentality when it comes to their health (for example, thinking that cancer strikes randomly), but it seems to me that those who are taking an active role in getting educated about how to have a healthier lifestyle are not being the victim! Rather, they are doing the opposite! They are being pro-active! They are learning to avoid toxic substances like vaccines, and, in the process, alerting others of their findings (an act of service).

    Now, if they become obsessed with the reason the vaccines are toxic (the power elite is out to get us) I can see how that might venture into the realm of victim consciousness ("don't go outside because they're watching your every move"). But just because someone acknowledges that yeah, there are nasties out there who may have corrupted the food supply, are brainwashing people with drugs and propaganda, so be aware of it and don't fall for it....that to me seems positive and pro-active, not being a victim.

    (12-15-2009, 03:12 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: My point about taking responsibility is that by playing the role of victim and feeling that others have created our situation will only complicate the healing process through the associated anger and frustration one feels when as a victim. It is much better to embrace the situation and ask what lesson you are being offered by it. IMHO, this mindset speeds the healing process and empowers the individual. This is also a way of "finding the love" in even the least desirable moments.

    The lesson learned might be that there are STS nasties out there trying to take advantage of a gullible public, and our task might be to alert that unsuspecting public. I was once one of those who had no clue that vaccines were so controversial. I am very grateful to the friend who opened my eyes!

    I do understand your point but I perceive an implication (perhaps unintended) that anyone who pursues knowledge of why certain substances or practices are unhealthy/toxic, is somehow playing the victim. I don't think that just because someone digs a bit and then shares his/her findings with others, they are necessarily playing the victim (though they might be). It could be an act of awareness and service.

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    the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by xlsander - 07-13-2009, 05:53 AM
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    RE: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by Monica - 10-04-2010, 01:55 PM
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    RE: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by Monica - 10-04-2010, 05:04 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by cosmoethicism - 10-04-2010, 11:01 PM
    RE: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by @ndy - 10-05-2010, 04:04 AM
    RE: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by cosmoethicism - 10-05-2010, 10:26 AM
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    RE: the amish dont get autism: VACCINES - by Monica - 10-16-2010, 01:43 AM
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    the amish dont get autism - by norral - 09-27-2010, 07:26 AM
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