04-01-2012, 02:56 PM
Agree with you on that one Pickle, that's craziness.
Our entire food production system is so messed up...I respect vegetarians, and even more so organic, small farmers who are doing the work that will change our system into a much better one. THANK YOU AUSTIN!!!
Has anyone read or listened to any of Michael Pollan's work? He has such good insight into the whole issue of food production and makes so much sense.
When I think of suffering on the planet, it's not just the animals I think of but the whole gamut of suffering....so the question I continually ask myself is: "How can I serve the emerging paradigm?" For me it is best to focus my will and intention on developing my gifts and talents and using them to serve. For me right now, its not about rearranging my life so I can be vegetarian, for a bunch of personal reasons.
When I think of vegetarianism, as a service to abet suffering, I think of it as a spiritual practice...it's a lifestyle, a living practice to help manifest a world where suffering is in the past. Like any spiritual practice, meditation, prayer, communion with the HS...it will lighten your spirit, it will have physical effects on the body, it's a really good spiritual practice. We can hold that same intention and prayer whether we become veggie or not, and it's not better or more evolved than any other spiritual practice, imo.
I have found yoga to be helpful to me, and it is extremely beneficial as a practice, even just the physical aspect, asanas. But I would not expect my husband or kids or family to practice with me...they are christian and it kind of freaks them out.
Like yossarian said, food is such a social ritual, and when your choices are different from those all around you...it can be problematic....so what is the best thing to do? You do what you are called to do, and what your are able to do and whatever is going to promote physical/mental and spiritual health for you and those you love.
So food choices are very much in a social/ cultural and conditioned context, and all that must be considered in the choice. In an ideal world, no beings inflict or contribute to the suffering of another being....but that is not how 3D is. Here and now, everyday, no matter what we do, there are others suffering... animals, children, women, men, all over the world are in pain.
That's why we seek and practice, we want the liberation from suffering, we want MORE light, MORE love on this little planet in the milky way who is moving to 4D where things will really change.
Namaste to the vegetarians for their practice, and to all others on this board who meditate, who seek, who love Gaia and want to see suffering end.
That's what I desire and I will focus my attention on that and serve the emerging paradigm in a way that utilizes my gifts and talents in service to the Creator.
Our entire food production system is so messed up...I respect vegetarians, and even more so organic, small farmers who are doing the work that will change our system into a much better one. THANK YOU AUSTIN!!!
Has anyone read or listened to any of Michael Pollan's work? He has such good insight into the whole issue of food production and makes so much sense.
When I think of suffering on the planet, it's not just the animals I think of but the whole gamut of suffering....so the question I continually ask myself is: "How can I serve the emerging paradigm?" For me it is best to focus my will and intention on developing my gifts and talents and using them to serve. For me right now, its not about rearranging my life so I can be vegetarian, for a bunch of personal reasons.
When I think of vegetarianism, as a service to abet suffering, I think of it as a spiritual practice...it's a lifestyle, a living practice to help manifest a world where suffering is in the past. Like any spiritual practice, meditation, prayer, communion with the HS...it will lighten your spirit, it will have physical effects on the body, it's a really good spiritual practice. We can hold that same intention and prayer whether we become veggie or not, and it's not better or more evolved than any other spiritual practice, imo.
I have found yoga to be helpful to me, and it is extremely beneficial as a practice, even just the physical aspect, asanas. But I would not expect my husband or kids or family to practice with me...they are christian and it kind of freaks them out.
Like yossarian said, food is such a social ritual, and when your choices are different from those all around you...it can be problematic....so what is the best thing to do? You do what you are called to do, and what your are able to do and whatever is going to promote physical/mental and spiritual health for you and those you love.
So food choices are very much in a social/ cultural and conditioned context, and all that must be considered in the choice. In an ideal world, no beings inflict or contribute to the suffering of another being....but that is not how 3D is. Here and now, everyday, no matter what we do, there are others suffering... animals, children, women, men, all over the world are in pain.
That's why we seek and practice, we want the liberation from suffering, we want MORE light, MORE love on this little planet in the milky way who is moving to 4D where things will really change.
Namaste to the vegetarians for their practice, and to all others on this board who meditate, who seek, who love Gaia and want to see suffering end.
That's what I desire and I will focus my attention on that and serve the emerging paradigm in a way that utilizes my gifts and talents in service to the Creator.