In regards to eating meat

[Shemaya]

I would like to hear a viewpoint on how eating meat is evolved.

Not sure what you mean by "evolved'...you mean spiritually or physically?

I heard an interview by this guy a year or so ago and thought it was really interesting, Aajonus Vonderplanitz



He has a really interesting testimonial. He had multiple medical issues through his life, and was autistic. As a young adult went on a vegan/ vegetarian diet which did not solve his issues, he became really ill and decided he wanted to starve himself to death, he went out into the desert to die, either wolves or coyotes (don't remember which) brought him a rabbit for food which he ate raw....and he got better and ended up healing his body with the "primal Diet....raw food including raw meat. Since then he apparently has helped many people heal through their diet with his guidance.

Here is another source on meat-eating and evolution.

Meat Eating and human Evolution

From a review:

It supports the traditional consensus view that humans evolved from a mostly-vegetarian ape-like ancestor with a small brain, with the evolution of sociability, intelligence, and cooperation being due in large part to the exigencies of meat-eating. Meat is good food for the growing brain, among other things, but hunting--in an animal lacking fangs and claws--tends to require a great deal of cooperation. (In fact, even such fanged creatures as lions and wolves depend on exquisite cooperation within complex social systems.) Humans evolved in Africa, which seems less well endowed with easily exploited vegetable foods than some other continents, forcing more dependence on hunting and scavenging. The present book summarizes the enormous recent advances in our understanding of human evolution. A combination of archaeology, nutrition studies, and comparative studies of other primates have provided new proofs for the old model. It looks as if humans progressed (if that is the word) from near-vegetarians two million years ago to people who, at the dawn of agriculture 10,000 or 12,000 years ago, were eating anywhere from 10% to nearly 100% animal foods--average perhaps 20%. Neither the view of humans as natural vegetarians nor the view of humans as savage "killer apes" can be supported.

The researchers indicate that meat eating helped evolve our brain physically, and also contributed to the evolution of society because of the requirement for cooperation in hunting.

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Like any spiritual practice, meditation, prayer, communion with the HS...it will lighten Our spirit, it will have physical effects on Our Body/ the planetary sphere, it's a really good spiritual practice. We can hold that same intention and prayer whether we become veggie or not, and it's not better or more evolved than any other spiritual practice, imo.

I like your post overall, Shemaya. I just wish to point out that these statements focus on the benefits to self.

To us, it's the same.

It's not the same to the animals.

I don't disagree with you at all, Monica, animals suffer unnecessarily on this planet just as humans do. I agree that there is unnecessary suffering.

I edited the my quote because what I am trying to get across is that we are in this together as a collective, we are evolving together. Those of us who are spiritually awakened know this to be true, but all of us can't be vegetarians. Even if we were vegetarians, we would still contribute to the suffering of both animals and humans in some way just by being part of the social matrix that we live in, it's impossible to avoid. The food we feed our pets, all the additives that you mentioned that are derived from the slaughterhouses.....we could drive ourselves crazy trying to eliminate every aspect of our lives that contribute to suffering. Easier to do if you are alone, but much harder if you are part of a family/ community that does not see things the same way.

So I say we respect one another with our differences and contribute what we can and are called toward in the lightening of the planetary sphere.