In regards to eating meat

[Diana]

Elitism and prejudice, Tenet, are your judgments upon people with opinions other than yours.

No- they are an observation, not a judgement. Your "seeing" them as a judgment is a judgement. Your "seeing" them as finger-pointing is a judgement.

No, I was observing. "Elitism, fanaticism, and prejudice" are interpretations, based on observation. What else could I conclude other than that you made a judgment?

The body of knowledge I hold does not make me "superior" it makes me responsible. That includes speaking up when I see 25 grams of protein a day being made as general recommendations to be "more spiritual".

So, you are just responsible and not elite or superior, but I, as a vegetarian trying to discuss here, am elitist, fanatical, and prejudice, and not just being responsible? You are name-calling.

I like to be proactive. Can we get past the name-calling and discuss the subject? You are fond of the term, butthurt. Don't be butthurt. I'm not, and this thread has attacked vegetarians all over the place. My ego is not at issue here, animals are. PM the mods if you think someone is violating a guideline.

The communication isn't about how so-and-so is an elitist, prejudiced, or a fanatic. It is about how each of us gives a "free pass" to these when it just so happens to support our personal agenda. It is a dynamic, not a specific word or action or person.

The communication is also about- if one is an activist- (and aren't we all in our own way?) why not look within to one's own "ranks" and see where elitism, prejudice, and fanaticism are given a "free pass" by those in the community. Maybe think about... if this is actually getting in the way of the desired result. Maybe think about... if one identifies with a group perhaps they take on some responsibility for the results of elitism, prejudice, and fanaticism among others in their group.

I see what you're saying. As humans, as difficult as it is to swallow for me, we have a collective consciousness which has created the world, and as a human I must accept responsibility to some extent for the whole mess.

However, I simply have no control over what others do. Why should I take responsibility for other vegetarians? Or fanatics? Or individuals with prejudice? As a white person, should I take responsibility for what a klu klux klan member does? Should I apologize for what someone else does?

I try and be the best I can be, and let it flow from me. I am responsible for me. In this way, I think I have power to affect the whole, since I can't change anyone else.

I am trying to bring awareness here, and gain awareness here, not trying to change anyone. A more evolved world is something I would like. But I know I can't make anyone change. I do know that I can inform, discuss, learn, and interact, hopefully to some productive and enlightening end.