In regards to eating meat

[Diana]

And that is precisely the point! Eliminating meat is arguably the single most effective way to accomplish so much...It's something we CAN do, that doesn't take any more time or money. In fact, it's cheaper to eat a vegetarian diet than to eat meat. It's something we CAN DO.

I disagree, there are many many things we can do other than eliminating meat, and many causes that we can champion, and as many different ways to serve as there are billions of individuals, who together make One. Thankfully , you are an animal advocate so I don't have to focus on that, and can direct my energy in the way I am called.

I think what was meant was that you can do this without any extra effort. Nothing needs to be championed. You have to eat. So you eat in a way that doesn't cause harm. You don't have to write your congressman, or volunteer at the soup kitchen, or anything other than choose different foods to eat.

I'm not trying to convince you to not eat meat, just trying to get a clear picture of the situation represented here.

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With regard to 2D animals, we are 3D evolving to 4D. As I see it, we are caretakers of our environment. This is a different dynamic that 3D humans dealing with 3D humans.

Exactly. My (3D) next-door neighbor is totally oblivious and merrily buys chicken McNuggets for her children.

So, "merrily" is bad for life?
It seems the spiritual implications of such merriment is positive and joyous.

"Merrily" is not bad for life, even in the context. That joy of getting her children something they like (because they are trained to like it) is the only thing good in this scenario.

First, feeding children this food is not responsible parenting. I don't mean any offense to parents, but I don't think there is any nutrition at all in McDonald's chicken McNuggets. Why feed them this sort of food? Additionally, it causes harm to the body.

Second, this kind of food is the result of major harm to the environment, as well as the animals.

So, I would have to say the negative aspects outweigh the "merrily."

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So, you are just responsible and not elite or superior, but I, as a vegetarian trying to discuss here, am elitist, fanatical, and prejudice, and not just being responsible? You are name-calling.

I like to be proactive. Can we get past the name-calling and discuss the subject?

Getting past the name-calling involves a willingness to stop using a perceived "attack" as a barrier to communication. I never called you- Diana- elitist, fanatical, or prejudiced. I said these are energies which we all participate in, to some degree. The only difference among individuals are those who affirm it, those who deny it, and those who ask why it happens in the first place.

Okay. You did not call me that, personally; but actually I did not mean it that way (just using myself as one of the vegetarians). I would like to get back to the subject of the thread. I don't feel there was a barrier because of a perceived attack (perhaps a short aside); I am still willing and open to discussing this material.