(04-17-2012, 06:22 PM)Shemaya Wrote: shrug If you don't understand what I am saying, that's OK.
Well, I really don't know what you're getting at. You're talking about guilt, and sin, and stuff like that...which have no relevance to me.
(04-17-2012, 06:08 PM)Shemaya Wrote: But I disagree with you, and I do not feel guilty that I have eaten meat , sardines, stinging nettles, chicken, bananas , avocados, shrimp, milk, chesse, nuts, etc.
Well if you don't feel guilt, then what are you disagreeing about? I was referring to those who feel guilt, which a number of people have expressed on this thread. If you aren't among them, then my comments about guilt don't apply to you.

But wait! Weren't you talking about programmed guilt? Now I'm wondering why you were talking about guilt, if you're not feeling guilt. Now I'm just confused.

(04-17-2012, 06:26 PM)Shemaya Wrote: If you read A course in Miracles it will give you a sense of where to trace back the original guilt. The answer seems obvious to me now, but it took time and catalyst to sink into the roots of my consciousness.
Well if it's some version of original sin, thank you but I'll pass on that.
But getting back to guilt about meat, are you now saying that's where such guilt comes from? So do you not acknowledge any possibility that it could simply be...healthy remorse coming from the conscience?
(04-17-2012, 06:35 PM)Oldern Wrote: Meat eating is not a sin. There are no sins in this existence.
Meat eating is a red frequency activity. It is the fuel for existing on a vibrational level that fits that theme.
Lower vibration is not worse vibration, though. It is different vibration.
If one has a goal of living in a different level of vibration, it can be beneficial to drop meat eating.
Well said!!!
(04-17-2012, 06:35 PM)Oldern Wrote: It is not beneficial however, to still entangle one with red/orange vibrational activity like judging other's activities. That will never raise one's frequency. Never.
Agreed! which is precisely why the other vegetarians and I have worked so hard to keep this discussion philosophical, rather than personal.