(04-26-2012, 01:25 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Why? what is so offensive about comparing violence towards a 3D entity, to violence towards a high-2D entity?
First of all it was not generic, so to say it's generic now is kind of self-serving.
Secondly, I feel there is a difference between my children and my pets. An example from my life (though I realize i am inviting all kinds of negativity by sharing from my life, I've come this far on this thread)
My mother-in law loves my dog. She'll buy gifts for her, take care of her, make a big deal about her. I also have three children whom she doesn't seem to care much for. There have been several things that have happened through the years that led me to see it this way. Maybe i am wrong, maybe she cares for my kids, but it seems she cares more for pets than kids. So with my unmet desire for my children to have a loving and warm grandmom, I have some disappointment over this. Does it cause me to rage, and ban her from my home? No, she is welcome here, still there is this discomfort.
I feel that she transfers her love and compassion to animals because it's easier, it's not uncomfortable and difficult like dealing with humans. Just my opinion, but still I wish my kids had a grandmom that they knew loved them.
(04-25-2012, 11:23 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:(04-26-2012, 12:34 AM)Shemaya Wrote: It's really not worth it, this thread is just like someone said, worthy of a huge bonfire...I will probably print it up and burn it myself.
Yes, as soon as someone who eats animals gets offended, the whole thread should go in the trash. Never mind how many times the vegetarians have been attacked and spat upon.
All this talk of compassion and acceptance...where is the compassion and acceptance of our other-selves who feel strongly about a topic, and for the other-selves who are feeling uncomfortable, for whatever reason? Why can't we all just forgive one another, when one of us says something that pushes another's buttons, instead of right away withdrawing our love and participation?
What are you asking here, do you need me to say something specific?
Not that many have right away withdrawn participation, we have tried to gain mutual understanding of different perspectives. 25-30 pages of participation isn't enough? If I don't have equal compassion for animals and humans, so what? Some people have more compassion for animals than humans. That's just not me.
And I am not saying that I have no compassion for animals , because I do. But I have more compassion for humans.
And if I don't want to discuss this anymore so what? I am not succeeding in helping you understand my point of view, what's the point of spinning wheels going nowhere? There are other things that deserve my attention that would be productive.
I agree with you on many things and it's fine to leave it at that.