In regards to eating meat

[Patrick]

- I lost 110 lb within a year (without counting calories) mostly on all-meat (low-carbs) diets. PLEASE! Don't shoot me yet!

I'll shoot only a hug!

Many people do indeed lose weight on a low-carb diet.

When I first became a vegetarian, and did a lot of cleansing, I got very thin. (I wasn't overweight to begin with, except maybe 5-10 pounds at most.)

Years later, when I was having health problems and tried eating meat again for a couple of years, I did the low-carb diet for 3 weeks. I lost 12 lbs. but my digestion got plugged up and I started having arthritis! Then I craved carbs on the rebound and gained it back.

Many people lose weight on the low-carb, high-meat diet, but I question the health effects long-term.

People lose weight on the vegetarian diet too, especially raw vegan. Apparently there are different mechanisms for affecting weight loss and metabolism.

From all the research I read on nutrition, there is one thing that came to be very clear to me. It's that what is "healthy" food greatly depends on the individual metabolism.

In other words, the science of nutrition trying to devise one set of advice for the whole population is not only unrealizable but is close to intentional misleading (by the Elites of course). The best researchers in the field are fully aware of this and some MDs well learned of this will always do their best to provide advice based on the metabolism of the patient, as a case by case. This is unfortunately the big minority.

Also, the media will publish, as evidence for causation, any epidemiological study they can find. But the great public is not aware that epidemiology can never ever serve as evidence of causation (pointing the arrow of cause to effect) and can only show correlations.

These correlations can then be used to formulate hypotheses and then experiments to tests them. These very important steps are most often bypassed and we use the epidemiological study as evidence.

This is so poor "science" that it can barely be called science at all.

SO regarding meat, the media likes to use this effect a lot. i.e. they'll show correlation in between meat consumption and colorectal cancer. BUT every time experiments are devised to test that eating meat causes said cancer, they fail to show causation.

If they would acknowledge that humans' metabolisms are different enough from one person to another, they would be able to get more precise results.

In fact regarding cancer, the experiential evidence are pointing more toward sugar being a problem than meat. And not just sucrose (table sugar) per se, but fructose specifically. Sucrose being half glucose and half fructose is indeed a good source of fructose. Fructose can only mostly be metabolized by the liver, just like alcohol, and so can lead to fatty liver, type 2 diabetes. It's actually the byproducts of fructose metabolism that can exacerbate cancer growth.

- I studied for 2 years, at about 30 to 60 hours a week, human metabolism and advanced nutrition (as a hobby, not in a university). Reading research papers directly first hand. Simply because I found that the (dis)information out there on these subjects, in other words the science of nutrition and human metabolism, is the most flimsy field of science. This gets quite clear when you take the time to learn it all from the sources.

There is a mountain of research and opinions by so-called 'experts' and much of it conflicts. Experts don't all agree, and it gets even more complicated because there are so many other factors in the equation, such as spiritual and emotional states, genetic predispositions, environment, etc.

In my understanding, the most comprehensive study regarding meat consumption is The China Study, the one mentioned the above Huffington Post article. It was a huge study and of course factored in all those other issues, leaving a very clear result.

The China Study. Here we go!

This was written by someone who eats the Raw Vegan way.

I hope you are in the mood for some reading, because you may find this VERY enlightening.
http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/08/06/final-c...onse-html/

It's a long read, but quite interesting and thorough and written by someone without a pro meat bias.

- Overeating is currently what seems to be my last great challenge (catalyst) in this incarnation.

Hmmm...This is just an idea, but have you ever considered "overeating" rich, decadent raw vegan desserts?

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&h...F474AWZIeA (in case this link doesn't work, I just went to google.com/images and did a search for rich decadent raw vegan dessert.)

Reportedly, many people who've had overeating challenges, have learned to enjoy food again, and eat freely, as much as they want to, and still not only lose weight, but enjoy a state of health more vibrant than they've ever imagined, by going raw vegan. Supposedly the pounds just melt off, very rapidly, and they can eat as much as they want. It just has to do with what they eat. (Just passing on the idea.)

I've experienced a taste of this, and I know Pickle and his wife live it. I'm making progress in that direction, but I'm not quite there yet. For me, it seems to be a matter of finding that balance between choice and flow. Choice directs flow!

Yeah, I tried that. I tried pretty much everything! hehe.

I went as far as taking all sorts of prescription and non-prescription drugs. Bromocriptine (to control hunger), Cytomel (T3 hormone, to raise metabolism), The ECA stack (Ephedrine HCL, Caffeine and Aspirin, to control hunger and raise metabolism), etc... including all sorts of "natural" stuff.

My body temperature in the morning is about 95 degrees, that's close to hypothermia. But my blood tests always says that my thyroid is ok and no metabolism issues.

I'm telling you my friends. This is paranormal (metaphysical) in my case.

It's a big catalyst that is leading me somewhere and I think that you guys will be able to really help me.

Let's see if you'll get me off of meat.

Is that an invitation or a challenge?

Both !