In regards to eating meat

[Monica]

The China Study is purely epidemiological. The connection or correlations it shows cannot prove anything.

I think you've missed my point, which is that it proves there's a correlation, and that's enough.

Are you familiar with a Raw Vegan critique of The China Study ?

I just read it. Respectfully, I don't think a 24-year-old, self-taught person is qualified to offer a legitimate critique of the China Study.

I approach the field of nutrition like learning a new language: total immersion-style. You didn’t learn your native tongue by sitting in a classroom following grammar lessons; you learned it by jumping into an initially confusing world and feeling your way around until it all started making sense. Every day, I make a conscious effort to surround myself with learning opportunities. I read everything I can get my hands on—from statistics textbooks to scientific papers. I find curricula posted on university websites, copy the lesson plans that look relevant, and acquire the reading material from the library instead of paying thousands of dollars for classroom instruction. If I can’t grasp something on my own, I email or call smart people and ask them to help me.

That's all very nice but the bottom line is, that she isn't even remotely qualified to analyze the data.

It's a must read for anyone wanting to argue or event support The China Study.

Well if we're going to hold up such a standard - that anyone who ever recommends any book or other resource must have read not only the book, but all critiques of the book, then none of us could ever recommend anything.

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The poison is in the dose my friend. Water can be a poison to your metabolism if the dose is too high.

Yes, and most people in our society overdose on junk foods, no question about it. That was taken into consideration in the China Study. Other factors were eliminated. This is the whole point of the study.

Yeah I tried raw food vegan.

Since I'm presently embarking on a raw vegan diet myself, I'm interested in what you experienced, if you care to share. What type of raw vegan diet did you do? (low-fat, high fruit, high in the healthy fats like nuts, seeds and avocados, etc.) Was it 'mostly' raw vegan, or 100%? If not 100%, what else was included? And for how long? I'm just curious because, as I said, I'm really investigating it so I'm interested in people's experiences, so I can avoid any pitfalls they may have encountered.

You wouldn't believe everything I tried.

Heh, yeah I would because I'm one of those people too, who has tried nearly everything! Every diet, every supplement, every therapy...over the years. I have quite a collection! So I can relate.

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i think its also the acidity of stuff we eat. if u eat acid forming foods its good to mix them with alkaline foods like cucumbers, veggies etc.

Yes, very good point, norral! Dr. Otto Warburg proved back in 1931 that cancer can only thrive in an acidic environment. He won the Nobel Prize for his discovery, and has never been refuted.

Many alternative doctors have gotten incredible success working with advanced stage cancer patients, by getting them alkaline.

It's much easier to get the body alkaline on a vegetarian diet, and even easier on a raw vegan diet. The patients who did the raw vegan got results much faster, according to those doctors.

It is, of course, quite possible to still be very acidic, even when vegetarian, if the person eats a lot of dairy, fried foods, sodas, etc. all of which are very acidifying.