(05-01-2012, 01:09 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:(05-01-2012, 09:54 AM)Valtor Wrote: I detected a difference in viewpoint that to me seems central to the discussion.
ALL choices that I make in this incarnation are based on my sincere belief in this statement: "Judgement is at the root of ALL negativity. There can be no negativity without Judgement".
Monica, if I understood you properly, you do not agree with that statement ?
No, I don't agree with it, because so many other things are left out. Like fear. Like catalyst. Like the positive aspect of judgment: discernment...
Discernment is for the self as is judgment.
Regarding what you consider left out, I actually consider judgment central to them.
(05-01-2012, 01:09 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: ...Like really defining what the word means in this context. Like so many things, it would take its own thread to explore. But even that is irrelevant, because my main disagreement had to do with your application of that concept.
In my experience, the way I apply this concept is what promotes harmony in all spheres of my life. i.e. fear and anger, when they do come to me, are very mellow because of it.
Of course, this makes me a very poor mirror for my other selves. And so my application of that concept makes me nearly useless as catalysts goes for my other selves.
But like everyone else, I can only be who I am.
(05-01-2012, 01:09 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Even if your statement is true - that judgment is at the root of all negativity - then it still is being misapplied, in my opinion. You said, if I remember correctly, that the judgment on this thread was worse than the negativity from eating meat.
To me, that is the equivalent of saying "discussing the problem of war, murder, and other heinous crimes, while explaining why we think they are wrong and trying to find solutions to those problems, is worse than the heinous crimes themselves."
I find that completely untrue.
May I suggest that without humans judging each others there would be no crimes to begin with.
IMHO the only way to stop crimes is to stop judging each others. No amount of finding solutions to those "problems" is going to solve them.
Nothing is wrong until someone decides that it is. And when they do it's only wrong for them.
(05-01-2012, 01:09 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: In order to do anything about anything negative, we must first identify it as such. That is a form of judgment better called discernment, and it plays a very important role in the process of making better choices and facilitating change.
I agree with this, but only when applied to the self.
IMHO the fastest way "In order to do anything about anything negative" is to decide that nothing is wrong. This right there stops all negativity in its track, at least for the Self.
(05-01-2012, 02:22 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote:(05-01-2012, 02:03 PM)Valtor Wrote: We do. Humans are perfectly fine eating exclusively animals. This has been thoroughly demonstrated. At least for some human metabolism.
Are you thinking of the Inuit?
Not really no. Inuits did get some carbs in their diet. This comes from the research I have done on the subject AND from personally knowing people who eat only animals and has been for years. Their diet is (by calories) 80% animal fat and 20% animal protein. They only get traces of carbs from eating liver.