(05-01-2012, 04:12 PM)Oldern Wrote: Oh, please do keep twisting, twisting, twisting. Let us all twist
In the meantime, I am not contributing to anything. The moment I made the permanent connection to animals living in horrible conditions, the moment I dropped meat eating from that origin. Simple as that. But as we are employing totally different belief systems, it does you no good to just take a glance at what is quite different from the one you are operating in, and make it look like it is something horrible.
"Make it look like something horrible" Are you kidding me?? I don't have to "make" factory farming "look horrible." It IS horrible.
OK so you never ever contribute to it by ever ever eating meat at restaurants? Good for you! But if you are content to just do that, then fine. Again, that is YOUR choice. But some of us aren't content with that. We HEAR THE CRIES FOR HELP.
This is getting beyond absurd. Sometimes I think it would be easier to discuss this with fundamentalist religious people. At least they still value helping the oppressed (the oppressed who are CALLING FOR HELP, by the way).
I think it's a mistake, and a gross MISunderstanding of Law of One principles, to totally toss out helping others. I'm shaking my head in disbelief. I cannot express how stunned I am, to be getting these kinds of responses, from students of the Law of One.

(05-01-2012, 02:46 PM)Valtor Wrote: Not really no. Inuits did get some carbs in their diet. This comes from the research I have done on the subject AND from personally knowing people who eat only animals and has been for years. Their diet is (by calories) 80% animal fat and 20% animal protein. They only get traces of carbs from eating liver.
Are you 100% certain they ate NO plant foods whatsoever? Sorry for my doubt, but if canned beans can be mistaken for raw veggies, then an occasional fruit or veggie might get missed too. Seriously no offense intended, but it is a valid question, being that you are making a pretty fantastic claim here.
(05-01-2012, 12:07 PM)Valtor Wrote:(05-01-2012, 11:53 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: ...Who am I to say they're wrong?
Indeed.
I think you know I was being facetious there.
(05-01-2012, 12:07 PM)Valtor Wrote: I cannot and do not want to decide what is wrong for them.
By the logic you and others are presenting, the next time someone hears a woman screaming in a dark alley, we should just look the other way. We shouldn't bother trying to save her, or trying to reason with the would-be murderer/rapist, because "who are we to decide what is wrong for them?"
After all, if we decide that the attacker is doing something 'wrong' then that's judging him, right? And that would be worse than his act of violence!
So we can't judge the attacker, because that would be STS. So we shouldn't try to impose our views of right and wrong on him, because that would be STS. So we should just ignore the call for help from the woman, and just not interfere, and not even call 911 either. After all, who are we to judge?