In regards to eating meat

[Monica]

I can't speak for Oldern, but I can tell you the primary reason Ra gave for wanderers coming back: "The overriding reason for the offering of these Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow in incarnative states is the possibility of aiding other-selves by the lightening of the planetary consciousness distortions and the probability of offering catalyst to other-selves which will increase the harvest."

That's what we're trying to do! We're trying to aid our younger other-selves! We're trying to lighten the planetary consciousness distortions by offering our views to those who voluntarily participate in this discussion, and who are knowingly contributing to this planetary darkness!

Billions of creatures in constant agony, and then brutally slaughtered...And it's something that is within our power to affect. There are a lot of things we can't directly affect. But this is one that we CAN directly affect! How can this horrible suffering continue to be ignored or justified? And then we are told we're in the wrong, for trying to do something about it?

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No thank you. Lots of people have claimed to be this or that, like breatharians, and were later found out to be frauds. We cannot ever be 100% certain they are doing what they say they are, regardless of how emphatically they insist.

And if they really are living on 100% meat only, let's see how long they live. Even cats and dogs eat some plant foods.

I am not saying that judging is wrong, because I believe that nothing is wrong.

In 6D, yes. But we are in 3D.

This was discussed on the radio show a couple of weeks ago, by the way. You might wish to check it out.

But imposing your judgment on him does result in negativity to you AND does not change anything regarding his act. It's not helping one bit.

You're saying that I'm saying "judge him" which would have "no effect on his action" but that is opposite of what I'm saying, which is "don't judge him, but DO stop him from harming another, if the other person is calling for help and it's within your power to answer the call."

Our responsibility is to answer the call, not support the person involved in an STS action. That's not judging him; it's simply declining his STS act of service. This is acceptable. Even Ra did this.

The person in need of help would get my help. And in so doing, I would indeed try to stop the would-be murderer/rapist.

??? well that is EXACTLY what we're trying to do!!

The animals are calling for help. We are trying to help them. And in so doing, we are trying to stop the oppressors (whether consciously contributing to the oppression or unconsciously contributing).

It is exactly the same scenario! The only difference is that the attacker might actually be STS motivated, whereas most people who eat meat aren't doing it out of any STS motivation. So the intention is different. But that's all the MORE reason to answer the call for help!

I am not nearly balanced enough to simply watch this while only feeling compassion for both.

If you're saying a totally balanced person would do nothing, then we have very very very different paradigms. I think there is a gross misunderstanding of what 'balanced' is.

IMHO it's a very small minority of criminals that are STS. Most criminals are themselves asking for our help. They just don't know how to express this with other ways than violence. Those truly "happy" with their lot are probably the STS ones.

Agreed. But it's irrelevant, because in that moment, we have no way of knowing that.

I understand that this is really starting to get off topic. So before the moderators gets involved, I will try to get back on topic.

The topic of acceptance is extensively explored here:

Strictly Law of One Material > Acceptance and Will