In regards to eating meat

[Monica]

1. It's possible you might find the reality on the ground is not quite so dire as you believe.

No, not possible, for the simple reason that those videos are real. It's impossible to say "that's not really happening."

The most one could do is say that it's not as widespread as they say.

On the other hand, it's possible, and I'd say quite probable, that it's far more widespread than they say. Certainly much more widespread than you seem to think.

Why do you seem to be downplaying these atrocities?

2. I don't think PETA videos are disregarded.

A few posts ago, you said:

I'm suggesting that the PETA videos don't show enterprises that are respectful to animals, and I'm suggesting that there are many of those.

What difference does it make who did the filming? The film is real; that's all that matters. Of course PETA doesn't film cute cozy farms, the same as charities don't report on happy, well-fed children. What would be the point of that?

PETA is very unpopular, and many people refuse to watch the videos just because they're from PETA.

That's why I was careful to choose videos from other organizations and even mainstream news, for better credibility.

3. The future is not set in stone. It seems to me that if animals activists worked with humane farmers we might be able to get some traction.

They're already doing that. But even 'spiritually oriented' Law of One students can't even agree that animals even deserve any compassion, so I don't have much hope for the general population.

I believe it's possible to be a compassionate omnivore and also that, as Edgar Cayce quoted Jesus, what comes out of our mouths is more important (and relevant to our vibration) than what goes in.

It's not about what goes into the mouth.

It's about compassion.

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Right. But Ra didn't say that we are to just do nothing, and let someone attack us or our family.

Actually, they did imply that in higher densities that's exactly what we'd do.

I disagree. They said they declined the service of the STS entities. They also gave instructions for how the LL team could decline the service. They, Ra, declined the service also.

Ra: I am Ra. ...The impulse to protect the loved other-self is one which persists through the fourth density, a density abounding in compassion. More than this we cannot and need not say.

This is only part of the picture. The rest of the picture is that Jesus had a particular mission, and he lacked wisdom, which was fine in order to complete his mission. Another piece of the puzzle is declining the offer of STS service.

Trying to change society is yellow ray. Having compassion for animals, and answering their call, is green ray.

Trying to change society in order that animals be better treated is yellow ray, but there's nothing wrong with that.

Right, there's nothing wrong with that. But, why is the green ray part always left out? Many times in this discussion, the vegetarians have been accused of "acting in yellow ray" while totaling ignoring the many times we've explained that yellow ray action is secondary; what drives us, what motivates us, is green ray. Compassion is green ray, but compassion seems to almost always get left out of the discussion.