12-29-2009, 01:07 PM
Thefool & Peregrinus, great back and forth dialog on the subject of 'helping' others polarize.
If I may interject my opinion here, I feel that fundamentally speaking, worrying too much about making the harvest, percentages of polarization and helping people such as "Bob" is somewhat unhelpful in the grander scheme of things.
When I first read about 4th density, graduation, and especially those confounded 51% / 95% figures, I was disconcerted as I think anyone would have been. Up to that point in my life I didn't even realize that any sort of larger spiritual graduation was taking place, much less any sort of 'grading' system as represented with percentages. This bothered me for a while and I was left wondering for months if I was doing what was "right" to enter 4th density positive. Worse, I was concerned that my friends and family wouldn't make it there with me and that some sort of discreet separation would eventually come down at the end of 2012 (being that I thought that was the end of the world date at the time- I no longer feel this way). The whole fiasco was a bit of a rough catalyst for me, mentally speaking.
It was only over time and thoughtful mulling of the philosophy of the topic that I concluded that the best way to move forward (indeed, the only sane way in my view) is to simply be who I am to my fullest possible potential at all times. If I were to try any other avenue I would not be living the life of the person I am. For really, it is not in my interest to do anything else, for then I might enter or remain in a density that is not aligned with that representation of who I really am. I honestly am not even sure if I care too much about which density I go to / remain in next anymore. I just want to be who I am, and I want my environment to reflect that as purely as possible. If we take the analogy of grade school, imagine yourself as a math student who has just moved in to a new town / school system, and is being evaluated by the teachers for grade placement. You're at an in-between age where you could either go in to 3rd grade or 4th grade comfortably. It really just comes down to how well you know your math. Supposing you aren't great at math, would you really want to be put in to the 4th grade level? Surely not. It would be uncomfortable to you to say the least. But in 3rd grade you could flourish, really learn the lessons you need, and on the whole I'd bet you would enjoy your time much more. And of course the reverse is true to one who is good at math already. It's not a judgement of good or bad, advanced or devolved, smart or dumb, it's just where you happen to be at.
As a result of this sort of thinking, once we move past the idea that 4th density is more desirable than 3rd, we can forget about this whole percentages / graduation thing entirely and get on being who we are.
As for Bob, this is even more true since, as Bob is his own person with his own biases, chakra blockages or the lack thereof, personal relationships, attitudes, belief systems, pizza topping preferences and etc. etc. etc., who are we to interfere? Bob's higher self is much, much, much more capable of giving Bob the exact help he needs to make whatever larger metaphysical choices he may need. Now, perhaps it happens that Bob's higher self leads him to question you about metaphysical things, graduation, TLOO or whatever else. In that case please feel free to impart whatever wisdom you have for him (YOUR higher self may indeed be working with his, and through your physical mind/body/spirit complex deliver exactly what is needed.) But until that day, feel secure and trust that the infinite creator / infinite creation knows what to do. Bob will be fine where ever he may go.
If I may interject my opinion here, I feel that fundamentally speaking, worrying too much about making the harvest, percentages of polarization and helping people such as "Bob" is somewhat unhelpful in the grander scheme of things.
When I first read about 4th density, graduation, and especially those confounded 51% / 95% figures, I was disconcerted as I think anyone would have been. Up to that point in my life I didn't even realize that any sort of larger spiritual graduation was taking place, much less any sort of 'grading' system as represented with percentages. This bothered me for a while and I was left wondering for months if I was doing what was "right" to enter 4th density positive. Worse, I was concerned that my friends and family wouldn't make it there with me and that some sort of discreet separation would eventually come down at the end of 2012 (being that I thought that was the end of the world date at the time- I no longer feel this way). The whole fiasco was a bit of a rough catalyst for me, mentally speaking.
It was only over time and thoughtful mulling of the philosophy of the topic that I concluded that the best way to move forward (indeed, the only sane way in my view) is to simply be who I am to my fullest possible potential at all times. If I were to try any other avenue I would not be living the life of the person I am. For really, it is not in my interest to do anything else, for then I might enter or remain in a density that is not aligned with that representation of who I really am. I honestly am not even sure if I care too much about which density I go to / remain in next anymore. I just want to be who I am, and I want my environment to reflect that as purely as possible. If we take the analogy of grade school, imagine yourself as a math student who has just moved in to a new town / school system, and is being evaluated by the teachers for grade placement. You're at an in-between age where you could either go in to 3rd grade or 4th grade comfortably. It really just comes down to how well you know your math. Supposing you aren't great at math, would you really want to be put in to the 4th grade level? Surely not. It would be uncomfortable to you to say the least. But in 3rd grade you could flourish, really learn the lessons you need, and on the whole I'd bet you would enjoy your time much more. And of course the reverse is true to one who is good at math already. It's not a judgement of good or bad, advanced or devolved, smart or dumb, it's just where you happen to be at.
As a result of this sort of thinking, once we move past the idea that 4th density is more desirable than 3rd, we can forget about this whole percentages / graduation thing entirely and get on being who we are.
As for Bob, this is even more true since, as Bob is his own person with his own biases, chakra blockages or the lack thereof, personal relationships, attitudes, belief systems, pizza topping preferences and etc. etc. etc., who are we to interfere? Bob's higher self is much, much, much more capable of giving Bob the exact help he needs to make whatever larger metaphysical choices he may need. Now, perhaps it happens that Bob's higher self leads him to question you about metaphysical things, graduation, TLOO or whatever else. In that case please feel free to impart whatever wisdom you have for him (YOUR higher self may indeed be working with his, and through your physical mind/body/spirit complex deliver exactly what is needed.) But until that day, feel secure and trust that the infinite creator / infinite creation knows what to do. Bob will be fine where ever he may go.