(05-17-2012, 08:46 AM)Shemaya Wrote: ...
Going round in circles, like an ouroboros eating it's tail. What is the common ground? If it's a desire to uplift the planet, then I would like to start with complete and full acceptance of Gaia, and the planet she has manifested, including the food chain, cycles of life and death, and the acceptance of death itself.
Death is just Gaia recycling, she makes compost and then reforms, and the cycle repeats. Compost is the organic substance from which new life springs. It's not dirty, and there is nothing immoral about the death that occurs to sustain life.
When we eat food, death is part of that process, and it is a normal and sacred part of the cycle of birth life and death in our current density.
I love Gaia and I honor her beauty and completely accept her manifestation.
She has given us everything.
We really think alike.

Loved your post !

(05-17-2012, 09:30 AM)Tango Wrote: ...
I'm wondering about both of these modes used to transport ideas .... and fail to find compassion in either.
My friend, may I share an advice here, not just to you, but to all? Pointing this sort of thing out can only result in even less compassion (or acceptance). I do agree with you. But the wisest thing one can do is to simply drop it. This is because people need to get to these conclusions by themselves for it to have any positive effect. That is why I contemplated the concept of activism for long and still am. It's not an easy subject for sure.
I've waited a long time to post this kind of post and I had to break my own personal rules to write this down. I can only offer to my other selves my sincere apology for the ruffling of feathers that may result from it.
Here is my advice TO ALL. Discuss the arguments not the arguer and not how the argument is presented, just the arguments themselves. If only one side of an argument puts this into practice it will work. There is no need for all to put this into practice for it to work. Then watch how the feel of the discussion changes by magic.