Orion Group

[Patrick]

the concept of "victim" does not exist.

Kind of like evil does not exist. It exists as an illusion and part of the framework of this experience. So while we are here, it does exist. If it doesn't, why is there any need for change? If there is no such thing as victim, then what is the point of helping anyone? We should be leaving them to their own devices as growth takes "time".

I like where the discussion is going. I feel we will cover come ground in understanding each other.

The reason why I say that victims do not exists is that the victim chose to experience what appears to make them a victim before incarnating.

"...then what is the point of helping anyone?"

Excellent question ! The answer to this is always personal of course, in my case I will offer help if I believe that help was requested of me or give my help when I am actually asked for it. I simply do not see what else I could do.

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I absolutely agree with you, and I'm glad you've made it a little more clear your thoughts.

Indeed! I agree Pickle. This prison you see, before incarnating here I saw it as a great university. Once inside of it though, I must admit that it took me a little while to see it once again as a great university.