05-19-2012, 09:41 AM
(05-19-2012, 08:44 AM)Pickle Wrote: @ Oldern. I understand. I will just say that there are many people that get sick from what they believe is good for them. Drug use would be the simplest example. Most common would be food.
I guess it boils down to what catalyst is programmed for you. There are a minority that are indestructable, with DNA that can take a beating. Such as myself. But, I found there are limits to how much "fun" I can have at the expense of my body.
(05-19-2012, 08:40 AM)ShinAr Wrote: In response to the OP I would ask how do we know what would be Orion devised?
Do they not work in seclusion and deception?
Who do you know that has identified any connection?
As an example, if a 5D negative were to take solid form and stand in front of Best Buy handing out free iPods that effectively shut down the right half of the brain do you suppose anybody would care in the least? Even if they knew what it did?
Sorry Pickle, you are probably responding in the sense that the entire thread has managed to generate and I shamefully admit to not having read through it all. So I really don't know what you're asking.
I think most of us that bother to consider the possibilities of such human/ET relations and interactions, understand that there are many possible scenarios playing out in the background.
And what's worse, which is what you might be implying, is that there are many of us, and yes I say US, that will risk some of these things regardless of that fact that we know the risk and the possibility.
This goes directly to what I was saying in the 'Monica's meat thread', (sorry Mon, I hate associating you with with meat now,, whoa that really didn't come out right}, about sensitivity. Such things are so integrated into our social life structures that we will tolerate and enable them anyway. I think this is the great tool that the elites have employed for thousands of years. Society is not ours and never has been. Just so everyone knows I make that joke to Monica because I know she has a great sense of humor and we speak often in ways that she knows my ridiculous sense of humor as well.
Democracy and this whole voting thing is a scam to make it appear like we have some power over our lives. But come on, who of any intelligence at all doesn't realize the vicious cycle of such practice. You vote one party in because you think the other sucks, and after four years of more sucking what do you do/ You vote those ones out and vote the other ones back in again as though your getting something new and improved.
Yeah right. What your getting is more of the same elites and the same system. But when voting time comes everyone is in a frenzy to do the right thing and vote or you don't deserve to have a voice. Puh lease! It's all about desensitization and apathetic ignorance.
You never had a voice. Liberal or conservative? what's the flavor of the day? which one are ya pissed off at the most right now? And in four years what other choice are ya gonna have? You gonna vote the least of two evils in next time just because that's the only option you have?
Tea party? Green Party? Right, yup, they are gonna make some radical alterations to a system owned and controlled by the rich and powerful elites all over the globe that have hoards of gold and treasure hidden in secret places enough to wipe the face of the planet clean whenever they so choose. You they have got some real power in those little grass roots parties. And as soon as they get into the system we will see who is really pulling the puppet strings.
Do we see the effects of the Elites? Sure we do? Do we know about it? damned right we do. Are we immersed into it right up to our necks. Of course we are.
Do we have a moral obligation to speak out against it and hope for a better human experience. Sure you do. Do you expect to make a difference. Only if you are delusional.
So the ignorant partake, the intelligent tolerate, and the concerned fret, but the elite system is so intricately spun into the web of humanity that it even extends into our very DNA. We cannot escape it because it is the actual human experience on this planet.
The only escape is in the realization and transformation that comes when one realizes one is more than this human experience. As consciousness we are not limited to this one manipulated experience. we are part of something far out of the reach of the temporary and limited scope of the elites.
They are really not as powerful as they appear. They only seem so to those who who do not yet know their true realities as evolving consciousness. The elite have you by your privates, and as long as that is how you perceive the world that is what you think your reality is, and how you will experience this world.
As soon as you realize that your privates are temporarily fixed in place, it doesn't really matter who has a grip on them at that point, because the real you walks away and leaves the elite holding a handful of flesh without substance.