Degeneration of Society

[Patrick]

I think I should explain what it means to me. Here is what dogma means to me. It's a belief or a system of beliefs that are ultimate truths and cannot be argued. They are imposed and proclaimed with authority and are to be taken whole and as is. Since I believe that Truth is subjective in veiled 3d, I could not align with what I understand to be dogma.

Using this definition, I don't see dogma in the Ra material. We are free to interpret it in our own way and leave be whatever we do not resonate with.

My friend, what is your understanding of dogma ?

Ah, I see...I think you possibly have more of an issue with religious fundamentalism, rather than just religion? For instance, many religious people view their religions the same way that you view the Ra material, being "free to interpret it in our own way and leave be whatever we do not resonate with."

Yeah I think you're right. For me religion is synonymous with religious fundamentalism, otherwise I call it spirituality.

They feel free to interpret the teachings of their religion and this IMHO is perfectly fine. But would their religion agree with them that their teachings can be interpreted ? What about the Credo ? You cannot be a Catholic without accepting the Credo as is.

Religious people who take only what they resonate with within their religion are more spiritual than religious in my usage of these words.

Of course many followers of the Ra material who discuss spirituality with loyalty to the material use subjective evidence to reinforce their beliefs, but then again, so do many religious people.

I take a dictionary definition of dogma, being "an authoritative principle, belief or statement of opinion, especially one considered to be absolutely true regardless of evidence, or without evidence to support it."

For instance, if you are discussing your spiritual beliefs with someone, and you say, "I believe that the point of our current reality is to polarize through Service to Others or Service to Self throughout multiple incarnations, and if we do this right, once a certain date gets here, we will be reborn into a different level of reality and experience something completely new. We can do this better through the guidance of our Higher Selves, a version of our future incarnations. This system I believe in was described by a group of beings that once lived on Venus telepathically communicated this to a woman in the 1980's."

Every part of that description of beliefs is dogmatic...something we consider to be true despite a real lack of verifiable, objective evidence. The philosophical concepts are golden, and even though some of the transient concepts have had evidence come out to support it, the spiritual concepts are rather dogmatic...according to the above definition.

Would you agree?

"something we consider to be true despite a real lack of verifiable, objective evidence."

This is what I call spirituality.


"Every part of that description of beliefs is dogmatic"

I don't see that. There is no authority proclaiming the Ra material to be the Ultimate Truth, including Ra themselves who is saying they are humble and distorted themselves and that what they say is meant to be self-interpreted.