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Interesting that Jesus said all that stuff about defilement and this and this and that, and all that came out of his mouth was "forgive forgive forgive forgive forgive forgive forgive forgive no matter what the offense forgive forgive forgive"

Interesting indeed. We take what we need and we leave the rest.

I agree. I wonder how much of the words attributed to Jesus was stuff he actually said, and how much came from his followers who wrote the books. The books were written decades after his death.

But the part about "love your neighbor" and "forgive 70 times 7" is so profound, such higher knowledge, that it had to come from a master. So I think that part must be authentic.

This is essentially where I became interested in the Christianity. I've never been a model Christian or took my Catholic roots serious enough to become a "devout" Catholic. The channeled material that I resonated with so much all seemed to say the LOO is in the bible, if you look hard enough, and my girlfriend is an East Texas Baptist. So I figured seems the LOO and my girlfriend are both important to me, I should at least make an effort to understand the bible.

This really is another conversation for another thread, but in short (and I really will try and keep it short!), my seeking has brought me the following.

- The first 3 gospels (Matthew, Mark & Luke) are overwhelmingly positive, if read with disgression. (You need really need to go back to the Greek and Aramaic roots of words to get the, let's say, full flavor of the key concepts i.e the word "sin" was not used as we understand it)
- The Gospel of John is a completely different read. Only in this gospel does Jesus call himself the "Son of God" and not the "Son of Man".
- The Christian Gnostic tradition bears ALOT of similarities to the LOO, especially in regards to the shall we say, galactic spiritual sense. They even go as far as to say Christ was CHANNELED by Jesus. (Q'uo said the same thing)
- Once Paul got his hands on Christianity, he brought his Pharisee frame of mind and stamped it all over Jesus' words. Who he never even met mind you. Paul's work makes up nearly 50% of the NT.
- In 325AD, Constantine declared that all Arian text (in which the Gnostic tradition was lumped under) be destroyed, and anyone who was caught with them and had not turned them in would be put to death.
- The Gnostic tradition put the responsibily of right and wrong and spiritual salvation on the individual. Constantine was in the business of conquering and ruling. He couldn't have people believing that! We didn't know much about the Gnostic tradition, other than what was mentioned in letters, until 1945 when the Nag Hammadi texts were discovered.

The church proceeded the bible, not the other way round. I think it's important to remember that the texts that were selected we're those that supported a ruling authority. Had the Gospel of John not been included, the rest of the NT wouldn't have a leg to stand on, because only in John does it proclaim that Jesus was the Son of God and believing in him was the only way to salvation. John is the only Gospel that takes the power out of the hands of the individual. I'm not saying The Gospel of John was forged, or that it doesn't have any positive messages, but I definitely think in the least it was altered.

In any case, I'm overly enthusiastic about all this, because this is what I've been working on for the past month, and I'm yet to share these thoughts with anyone! I'm constantly learning new things the more I dig, and there is always a chance I'll have a completely different take on things next week!

Also, the thing I love so much about the Nag Hammadi texts, is that they layed in the earth for 1700 years, untouched, and yet somehow, they still carry the same flavor as what Ra gave us 30 only years ago.

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is it related to "those who seek together find better"

Could be. I'm the first to admit I'm not a religious scholar. It's entirely possible I'm only looking for meanings that align with what I already believe.