05-28-2012, 10:38 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-28-2012, 11:32 AM by Tenet Nosce.)
(05-27-2012, 08:55 AM)ShinAr Wrote: As usual my friend I am once again unsure of what you are saying. It is my fault. There are certain people who have ways of expressing themselves that certain other types have difficulty interpreting. I know because I am misinterpreted myself in this way.
No worries, it happens! A lot.
Quote:I do not think duality is a matter pf perspective. I agree that there is most definitely observations of perspective, but those observations are not what make a thing real or unreal.
What is real? Two people are sitting in a room. One experiences the room as "warm" the other as "cool". What is the reality?
Quote:If we are both looking at a car from opposite sides, and that car is painted red on one side and blue on the other, we will each see a different color. that is perception. Our perception however has not altered the reality of the car being red and blue.
Right. Maybe we are more on the same page than it appears. The car is BOTH red AND blue.
Perhaps we would have an easier time discussing if I used a different term than dualism. How about- binary thinking? I am talking about EITHER/OR logic.
Quote:If we apply that to duality, we understand that the anti-force to the force of origin, is not perspective, it is as real as the force. The opposite of a thing is every bit as real as it is.
What is the source of the anti-force?
Quote:TN, you seem to be using duality as a means to define the choices of a person's decision making as irrelevant because you see duality as a matter of perspective. Is that what you were saying or am I misunderstanding you?
No, I think you are misunderstanding me. I am saying that one does not possess Choice until they grow beyond binary thinking.
Quote:If you mean that the struggle to polarize because we exist in a universe of dual nature, causes growth, than I agree that duality has its purpose in the evolution of consciousness.
Yes.
Quote:What changes is the entire universe and the various states within it. The duality of it never changes because duality is the very nature and essence of the universe.
I agree it may be difficult to progress beyond this point in the conversation without discussing the foundational premises of one's cosmological belief system. As far as I am aware, most religions, and the esoteric mystery schools on which they are based, recognize three fundamental aspects of reality.
Some examples:
Father-Son-Spirit
Maiden-Mother-Crone
Creator-Destroyer-Preserver
Brahma-Shiva-Vishnu
Proton-Electron-Neutron
...and so on.