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    01-06-2010, 06:50 AM
    Wow. These last posts have been such a nice present to wake up to. Peregrinus and Creationist sounds like the description a few posts back of an adept. Using visualization. I love how much you can learn in these posts. I've got a buddy who also can't hurt creepy things, and I guess I think it's a little over the top. Intellectually I respect it, but the old habits/heart complex (ha ha) finds it a bit much. Love the idea of not beginning or ending prayers since we never stop communicating. I've also been to a morning offering, and we read from Ram Dass, I think, alongside some bible quotes. Pretty mind blowing - the creative juxtaposition of texts; I forget the details but it was so fresh feeling, the play of ideas.

    I just love this forum. I got into an online forum only once before, and this is like having that big community that really embraces much of the rest of my life. This speaks to greater concerns than I routinely address in other "real" communities I belong to. And it grounds my being while in other, "real," communities.

    I remember I went through a phase where I didn't use paper towels in public restrooms because I wanted to save trees. I would air dry my hands. Another and related phase was when I was reading a lot of Perelandra material and didn't want to kill bugs either - would take them all outside, etc. I've always felt guilty for backing away from that. Now that I'm learning about the power of intention, it seems to be a way I can relax about living practically, but still care?

    Here's another one - I had this experience recently of praying or visualizing or opening my heart - I don't recall the details of the catalyst - I was walking in the woods, and I had this experience of love, and, this realization of doing what I have heard Carla refer to as the work of 4th density (being consciously active in the unseen realms, praying, visualizing, meditating) and realized that when you're in love, or loving, time doesn't matter. That was quite an aha for me, anyway. And that the work of 4th density is real and is "more important" than the ordinary business of 3rd density, Doing.

    I would love a sort of 4th density Twitter. Ok, now I'm asking mother/Terran, Father for.... Ok, now I'm visualizing ____________ for a friend and imagining that it already exists_______________. Ok, now I'm sending loving energy and visualizing ______________ at the guy who cut in front of my blue Subaru with his white Honda Civic on the way to work. Ok, now I just visualized happy children harvesting my fair trade chocolate in Ghana - or - I just sent loving energy to children I imagined being forced to harvest my non fair-trade chocolate in Ghana, and imagined it washing over them, thanked them for their sacrifice. Man, as I get on a roll here, I can imagine sending loving energy to the military/industrial/commercial complex everytime I buy/consume just about anything - now that strikes me as fourth density work! I have a really rough time with that - always feeling guilty because just about anything I do in 3rd density lends my material support to vast, octopus systems of exploitation and suffering - our economy is so cruel - and, now that I'm into conspiracy theories and Illuminati and Hidden Hand and New World Order - to those dudes too. Now, if I think about it, I can do my 4h density work. Besides just not being a total consumerist, I am going to be daily implicated when I use gas, buy food, purchase anything else, in those systems, so I need to happily and carefree-ily learn to do my 4th density work. Which is probably love-work and is out of time.

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    Prayer...are we just talking to ourselves? - by kristy1111 - 12-29-2009, 10:00 PM
    RE: Prayer...are we just talking to ourselves? - by Questioner - 12-29-2009, 11:57 PM
    RE: Prayer...are we just talking to ourselves? - by ayadew - 12-30-2009, 04:54 AM
    RE: Prayer...are we just talking to ourselves? - by Sacred Fool - 12-30-2009, 05:18 AM
    RE: Prayer...are we just talking to ourselves? - by Lavazza - 12-30-2009, 11:55 AM
    RE: Prayer...are we just talking to ourselves? - by feibelal - 12-30-2009, 01:19 PM
    RE: Prayer...are we just talking to ourselves? - by Aaron - 12-30-2009, 04:19 PM
    RE: Prayer...are we just talking to ourselves? - by thefool - 01-02-2010, 12:06 PM
    RE: Prayer...are we just talking to ourselves? - by Peregrinus - 01-02-2010, 01:50 PM
    RE: Prayer...are we just talking to ourselves? - by Sacred Fool - 01-02-2010, 02:05 PM
    RE: Prayer...are we just talking to ourselves? - by StormShadow - 01-03-2010, 11:51 PM
    RE: Prayer...are we just talking to ourselves? - by transiten - 01-07-2010, 04:33 AM
    RE: Prayer...are we just talking to ourselves? - by kristy1111 - 01-07-2010, 11:58 AM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by Whitefeather - 01-04-2010, 07:19 PM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by Brittany - 01-05-2010, 08:52 PM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by creationist - 01-06-2010, 01:39 AM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by Peregrinus - 01-06-2010, 05:15 AM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by feibelal - 01-06-2010, 06:50 AM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by creationist - 01-06-2010, 12:21 PM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by feibelal - 01-06-2010, 12:32 PM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by Peregrinus - 01-06-2010, 03:49 PM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by feibelal - 01-06-2010, 04:05 PM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by creationist - 01-06-2010, 01:16 PM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by airwaves - 01-06-2010, 02:42 PM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by Peregrinus - 01-06-2010, 04:24 PM
    RE: Prayer...are we just talking to ourselves? - by Whitefeather - 01-06-2010, 05:24 PM
    RE: Prayer...are we just talking to ourselves? - by kristy1111 - 01-06-2010, 05:44 PM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by creationist - 01-07-2010, 12:01 AM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by Odinn - 11-05-2011, 06:40 AM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by Oceania - 11-05-2011, 07:49 AM
    RE: Prayer...are we just talking to ourselves? - by Whitefeather - 11-18-2011, 05:09 PM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by AnthroHeart - 11-19-2011, 04:48 PM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by Whitefeather - 11-20-2011, 12:10 AM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by Oceania - 11-19-2011, 04:50 PM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by 3DMonkey - 11-20-2011, 10:54 AM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by Whitefeather - 11-22-2011, 12:09 AM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by AnthroHeart - 11-20-2011, 11:02 AM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by 3DMonkey - 11-20-2011, 11:05 AM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by zenmaster - 11-20-2011, 11:13 AM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by AnthroHeart - 11-21-2011, 03:59 PM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by zenmaster - 11-22-2011, 01:01 AM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by AnthroHeart - 11-22-2011, 11:24 AM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by samith - 11-22-2011, 11:17 AM
    RE: Prayer...Whom do you pray to? Are we just talking to ourselves? - by Richard - 11-22-2011, 11:34 AM
    in Law of One.... who do you pray to? - by carrie - 01-04-2010, 11:48 AM
    RE: in Law of One.... who do you pray to? - by kristy1111 - 01-05-2010, 09:36 PM

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