07-15-2012, 07:07 PM
Apologies for any misunderstanding. It was not intentional.
We seemed to be in synch in the meat thread until I perceived that in my opinion you seemed to be perplexed at the reactions of others to what you thought should be unquestionable logic.
In one of these threads you stated,
"Therefore, can you see how it logically follows, in my mind, that any unnecessary killing is incompatible with the STO path?
And, can you see how it logically follows, in my mind, that animals are being oppressed and victimized?
It then logically follows, that if these other-selves are being victimized, and are calling for help, and I am hearing their call, and I am STO-oriented, can you see why I would want to answer their call?"UNQUOTE
It appeared that you became disappointed when people would continue to debate and would not drop their meat eating habits even though you had revealed serious cruelty involved in the process of acquiring that type of meal.
I was attempting to address what I thought was your disappointment and confusion over people's responses.
If, as you seem to say here, that you are not surprised at such apathy, and that you do not expect to change the eating or pet keeping habits of others, than I have been mistaken.
I guess for one to understand this in its entirety one would have to read through the posts of Dignity for Doomed Dogs, Motives of Activists, Cats and Kittens, Animal Monogamy, Exploring Omnivorous vs vegetarian, and the infamous Meat Thread in which you stated,
"If what you eat, happens to conflict with my efforts to save the animals, you and I may have a bit of discord." UNQUOTE
I might have misunderstood your frustration. I will respect your choice not to discuss it further with me and will watch to see if you decide to respond further. There are alot of threads to keep track of though so forgive me if I miss one.
We seemed to be in synch in the meat thread until I perceived that in my opinion you seemed to be perplexed at the reactions of others to what you thought should be unquestionable logic.
In one of these threads you stated,
"Therefore, can you see how it logically follows, in my mind, that any unnecessary killing is incompatible with the STO path?
And, can you see how it logically follows, in my mind, that animals are being oppressed and victimized?
It then logically follows, that if these other-selves are being victimized, and are calling for help, and I am hearing their call, and I am STO-oriented, can you see why I would want to answer their call?"UNQUOTE
It appeared that you became disappointed when people would continue to debate and would not drop their meat eating habits even though you had revealed serious cruelty involved in the process of acquiring that type of meal.
I was attempting to address what I thought was your disappointment and confusion over people's responses.
If, as you seem to say here, that you are not surprised at such apathy, and that you do not expect to change the eating or pet keeping habits of others, than I have been mistaken.
I guess for one to understand this in its entirety one would have to read through the posts of Dignity for Doomed Dogs, Motives of Activists, Cats and Kittens, Animal Monogamy, Exploring Omnivorous vs vegetarian, and the infamous Meat Thread in which you stated,
"If what you eat, happens to conflict with my efforts to save the animals, you and I may have a bit of discord." UNQUOTE
I might have misunderstood your frustration. I will respect your choice not to discuss it further with me and will watch to see if you decide to respond further. There are alot of threads to keep track of though so forgive me if I miss one.